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Teale says on TV he's in a good position to get some results and push for getting the gig permanently. Thompson says if offered the manager's job he'd find it hard to refuse. Goodwin isn't saying anything on TV, he's just been relieved of his assistant manager/coaching role.

Our three most senior figures, embroiled in the managerial clusterfcuk, and none of them contributing much on-field either, due to injury or flying elbows.

The more I think about it, the more I think we need an outsider coming in, one who wouldn't stand for any shite, or have any favourites, or be part of any dressing room cliques. If Teale got the hump, so be it. If Thompson got the hump, so be it. Far too incestuous for my liking.

Maybe the likes of a Terry Butcher type would kick some arses.

In fairness all three appear to be very good representatives for the club. Thommo is faultlessly good from a media perspective.

GT has been talked up from a coaching perspective by all involved since TC's appointment.

Goody, on field antics aside, is an extremely articulate guy who as I've said comes across as a influential leader.

I don't know what the answer is with regards keeping all three happy.

Goody seems to have been warned about further misconduct and appears to have been sidelined with the managerial changes this far. Does this mean purely concentrating on the playing side or mixed feelings about the guy who shared your position becoming your boss? Same goes for captaincy with Thommo...

GT, if he is such a good coach, how do we keep him happy and at the club if not in a managerial capacity? Do we accept the loss of him as a coach given playing days are numbered given the potential expense of keeping him?

Thommo's comments signalling his intent to give football management a go were at stark odds with GT's comments. I appreciate this may have simply been down to the wording of the question, but did paint a potentially worrying picture. Interestingly his comments about McCoist and the players taking more responsibility was quite apt. Now fitness and suspension problems are starting to improve it's time for the players to step it up a gear.

As suggested the alternative is someone from the outside, keep the three afore mentioned as players, but with GT's playing days apparently numbered potentially lose him as a coach?

I haven't a clue what the dynamics are within the dressing room, but all 3 of the above guys in their own way have and could still be great representatives for our club.

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A dressing room split is a real possibility if GT gets the permanent appointment.

It would only be natural if Thommo (and Goodwin) harbored a bit of resentment and (being 2 of our key players for the rest of the season) it would be less than surprising if that affected their performances on the pitch.

We can't afford to have any player not playing to his full potential in view of the desperate situation we are in at present.

SG and the BoD will have to give this issue very careful consideration.

Have to agree that it appears that this could be the case from the outside. Certainly from SG's comments about wheeling and dealing an outside candidate seems more likely. However another factor surely has to be the new managers wages? Have DL's wages been saved by effectively reducing the coaching staff by one this season or are we at a loss because of the pay off TC will be due? Edited by Bart Simpson

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From what Gilmour said on the radio the other night, we're looking for someone who can 'wheel and deal', with good contacts.

The 'wheeling and dealing' aspect of SG's statement makes me think a new manager will be in place before the transfer window and might be expected to cash in on McGinn and, to a lesser extent, McLean and use that money to replace a half dozen others - those 'others' being free agents and/or loan deals, (though the "good contacts" mentioned), so only costing the wages.

Could I live with that? If it keeps us up then the answer is yes. I'd only hope that neither of them would end up at Sevco.

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Find it hard to believe that with SG on holiday that they would be anywhere near making an appointment yet, especially before GT and DL have had any matches in charge. It sounded like they would maybe wait for a week and see what applications came in and then shortlist a few and begin speaking with with people then.

What if GT DL go on a good run getting more out of the team than TC did ? I would think they stand a very good chance if they did. My top choice would still be Thompson.

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The 'wheeling and dealing' aspect of SG's statement makes me think a new manager will be in place before the transfer window and might be expected to cash in on McGinn and, to a lesser extent, McLean and use that money to replace a half dozen others - those 'others' being free agents and/or loan deals, (though the "good contacts" mentioned), so only costing the wages.

Could I live with that? If it keeps us up then the answer is yes. I'd only hope that neither of them would end up at Sevco.

I don't the stands are exactly packed with scouts looking at McGinn and McLean any more. Hopefully we can get them back in their proper positions, Tommy Craig has cost us a pretty penny by asking McLean to do something he clearly can't this season.

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I don't the stands are exactly packed with scouts looking at McGinn and McLean any more. Hopefully we can get them back in their proper positions, Tommy Craig has cost us a pretty penny by asking McLean to do something he clearly can't this season.

If any club was willing to pay money for McLean, they'd have done it by now. He was available for compensation in the summer and no one took a punt.

Hence Kenny signed a 2 year deal. He will see that out and by the end of next season he will be 24, and then he can and will leave for nothing.

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The 'wheeling and dealing' aspect of SG's statement makes me think a new manager will be in place before the transfer window and might be expected to cash in on McGinn and, to a lesser extent, McLean and use that money to replace a half dozen others - those 'others' being free agents and/or loan deals, (though the "good contacts" mentioned), so only costing the wages.

Could I live with that? If it keeps us up then the answer is yes. I'd only hope that neither of them would end up at Sevco.

nobody is paying anything for those two, at least not enough to fund other deals

Edited by beyond our ken

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I dont think Thommohawk will be considered for the position as i was sure he would maybe have some coaching involvement when TC left.

It would be best to get an outsider, as there are 3 current senior players who may all face a crack at the job permanently.Its not to say that any future manager would have any of the 3 on their coaching staff when appointed.

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I dont think Thommohawk will be considered for the position as i was sure he would maybe have some coaching involvement when TC left.

It would be best to get an outsider, as there are 3 current senior players who may all face a crack at the job permanently.Its not to say that any future manager would have any of the 3 on their coaching staff when appointed.

Did you read Thommo"s article in today's daily record about Craig, quite interesting

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What if GT DL go on a good run getting more out of the team than TC did ? I would think they stand a very good chance if they did. My top choice would still be Thompson.

I'd love folks calling for Thompson to be made manager to explain the rationale behind that choice.

He has almost no experience of coaching or being an assistant or being a manager. How do we know he would be any good at improving our activity in the transfer market? The main thing we need from Thompson as we move into the second half of the season is goals since it is looking unlikely that Marwood, Ball or Ross Caldwell will contribute much in that department. I'd rather we got Thommo fit and on form and in among the goals again - we probably need him to notch up about 10 goals this season to help us avoid the drop. Given the amount of assists Teale has laid on for Thommo I'd also quite like to see Teale swinging in the crosses and corners rather than say Gregg Wylde. (It's not a great place to be in when people are saying everything will be fine once we get Wylde back)

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Let's face it the current squad will be relegated by march I have absolutely no doubt. Our only hope is to find a wheeler dealer who can somehow find players that will help us. To do this lets try and lose caldwell, marwood , ball , cheesy and free up a wage. It's unlikely I know but these guys are not anywhere near good enough

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Look at the past couple of seasons and you will see defeat after defeat. The squad needs gutted as it does not have a winning mentality and as long as these players continue we will be relegated. I hope Gary does well tomorrow but we are now at the point of no return it's that bad. We could be as good as down in the next six weeks

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That Craig seemed to lose enthusiasm in training over the past few weeks and that the sacking was inevitable.

So the team were being 'led' by an imposter for weeks? I hope the BoD didn't have to part with too much cash when bagging him, as he failed to deliver his brief in every area. He has left us with a mountain to climb, and should be handing back his wages never mind taking a pay-off.

Edited by Drew

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