bluto Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) As you seem interested in what Buddies think, div....Why not correct the heading for this thread to the truth? The final match will NOT be against Rangers.I realise you don't want to hurt the feelings of sevco fans who are already being lied to by the mainstream Scottish media, the SFA and the SPFL that their team has somehow survived, but how about not lying to us?This is a new team, cheated into the fourth division despite the alleged rules. It is not operating, and has not operated, on any sort of Financial Fair Play basis whilst it waddled unsteadily through the leagues.Don't you think that we, Buddies, deserve some sort of honesty amongst ourselves? Edited January 12, 2016 by bluto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Bill knows best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted January 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 As you seem interested in what Buddies think, div.... Why not correct the heading for this thread to the truth? The final match will NOT be against Rangers. I realise you don't want to hurt the feelings of of sevco fans who are already being lied to by the mainstream Scottish media, the SFA and theSPFL that their team has somehow survived, but how about not lying to us? This is a new team, cheated into the fourth division despite the alleged rules. It is not operating, and has not operated, on any sort of Financial Fair Play basis whilst it waddled unsteadily through the leagues. Don't you think that we, Buddies, deserve some sort of honesty amongst ourselves? Yeah, I find that whole naming argument thing unbelievably tedious so you can count me out of that one I'm afraid. The official SPFL league table shows them as being called Rangers, and whether or not that is right or not right, I honestly couldn't care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 North stand only for them and all future away supports of all clubs. We need to be more imaginative in filling the three home stands. Like fill the empty seats with mannequins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E=Mc2 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Like fill the empty seats with mannequins. As long as they pay, and their encouragement of the players could not be any worse than some of the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 It makes no difference whether we give them the seats or not Like it or lump it the game will Be a sell out and rangers favs will be in the st mirren end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Nipper Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 As you seem interested in what Buddies think, div.... Why not correct the heading for this thread to the truth? The final match will NOT be against Rangers. I realise you don't want to hurt the feelings of of sevco fans who are already being lied to by the mainstream Scottish media, the SFA and theSPFL that their team has somehow survived, but how about not lying to us? This is a new team, cheated into the fourth division despite the alleged rules. It is not operating, and has not operated, on any sort of Financial Fair Play basis whilst it waddled unsteadily through the leagues. Don't you think that we, Buddies, deserve some sort of honesty amongst ourselves? ^^^^^^^^^^^ Relentless quest, quite the Knight for truth and justice. I just wish the kinda settlement you are looking for was universally backed. Sadly , just like the sports bulletins tonight, all this country's journo hacks and administrators are interested in is re uniting two Glasgow clubs in a head to head rivalry. That, frankly , is what I find tedious tbh. It just drives me away from the Scottish football scene altogether, it is unbelievably parochial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 So it could be a relegation decider then? I think the standard penalty under the SPFL rules is a 15 point deduction for a club going into administration? Not sure if The Rangers would get an additional Dundee-style penalty for it being a second offence (if you take the view they are the same club rather than a new club). So, I'm guessing if they did go into admin this season they would still be well placed for a play off place behind Falkirk and Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) If my talk of Rangers in administration seems far fetched, it would seem the company providing wifi at Ibrox Stadium have a court case against Rangers at Glasgow Sheriff Court seeking to arrest money from the club for non-payment of their bills: https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/2016/01/11/wifi-woes/ http://www.scotzine.com/2016/01/rangers-rival-andy-murray-with-court-time-as-wi-fi-company-takes-action/ Perhaps by the time this game is played TRFC will have been deducted points and their fans will be back to boycotting other clubs and marching to the SFA again :-) Edited January 12, 2016 by Dibbles old paperboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I want to swear on here without asterisks , like Div does. f**king - see Why the fuck would you want to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 As you seem interested in what Buddies think, div.... Why not correct the heading for this thread to the truth? The final match will NOT be against Rangers. I realise you don't want to hurt the feelings of of sevco fans who are already being lied to by the mainstream Scottish media, the SFA and theSPFL that their team has somehow survived, but how about not lying to us? This is a new team, cheated into the fourth division despite the alleged rules. It is not operating, and has not operated, on any sort of Financial Fair Play basis whilst it waddled unsteadily through the leagues. Don't you think that we, Buddies, deserve some sort of honesty amongst ourselves? Totally agree. If we had the truth then it could have been a new dawn for Scottish football. It could have been a new dawn for Scottish society. Its more than just a naming debate. Indeed, that is just the very tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, most do not care. They are therefore stuck with the same old and a Scottish football whose basis is defined by bigotry, sectarianism, hatred, violence and cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinbuddie Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 With all these types of initiatives (giving big opposition supports seating in the West Stand, the Sellic signage scandal etc), we're told that the money will be very useful, it'll help bring in more and possibly better quality players blah blab blah..... That's all fine in theory, but we've been watching garbage on the park for the past couple of years and there will be lots of fans thinking hard about buying a season ticket for next season - I know that I will be. The money is obviously helpful to the club but I'm not sure that I've ever seen overt signs of the benefits of these initiatives. If Rangers do have something important hanging on the last game of the season The BoD would have to have a very hard think about what they do, as pissing fans off even more on the last day of the season is unlikely to be a wise move when you've got season tickets to sell. PS I'm ok to call them Rangers, but in footballing terms, it's clear that they weren't relegated as a punishment, they had to reapply to join the SPFL. That only happens when a club has ceased to exist. Therefore, they are a new club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 If my talk of Rangers in administration seems far fetched, it would seem the company providing wifi at Ibrox Stadium have a court case against Rangers at Glasgow Sheriff Court seeking to arrest money from the club for non-payment of their bills: https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/2016/01/11/wifi-woes/ http://www.scotzine.com/2016/01/rangers-rival-andy-murray-with-court-time-as-wi-fi-company-takes-action/ Perhaps by the time this game is played TRFC will have been deducted points and their fans will be back to boycotting other clubs and marching to the SFA again :-) Yes, things are still, bubbling away , so to speak. I have no doubt that they will lucky to make the end of the season . . As for the wifi company taking them to court, I'm just surprised that anyone is willing to do business with them given their track record. I think there was a time when one company would always check another companies credit rating before a business transaction took place. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Totally agree. If we had the truth then it could have been a new dawn for Scottish football. It could have been a new dawn for Scottish society. Its more than just a naming debate. Indeed, that is just the very tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, most do not care. They are therefore stuck with the same old and a Scottish football whose basis is defined by bigotry, sectarianism, hatred, violence and cheating. It was a new dawn for Scottish football. It wiped out debt at most lower league sides and it's set them up for years to come. Bigotry, prejudice and hatred in Scotland wouldn't go away if "Rangers" / Sevco or whatever you want to call them goes away. We can see that clearly from the hordes of ant English SNP voters we have in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Why the debate Do what we always do Sevco fans will be in our stands no matter what We don't make it hard for them to do so. Down in England if an away team sell out their allocation Any fan wanting a ticket for the home end have to be in the data base to get a ticket Doesn't happen here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 It was a new dawn for Scottish football. It wiped out debt at most lower league sides and it's set them up for years to come. Bigotry, prejudice and hatred in Scotland wouldn't go away if "Rangers" / Sevco or whatever you want to call them goes away. We can see that clearly from the hordes of ant English SNP voters we have in this country Sevco fan screaming out of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 It was a new dawn for Scottish football. It wiped out debt at most lower league sides and it's set them up for years to come. Bigotry, prejudice and hatred in Scotland wouldn't go away if "Rangers" / Sevco or whatever you want to call them goes away. We can see that clearly from the hordes of ant English SNP voters we have in this country It hasnt wiped out debt for the main protagonist! Unless you live on planet Zog you cant fail to notice that they are borrowing way beyond their means again. As a spokesman for fairness in football, how do you square the circle you have drawn around yourself above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 It was a new dawn for Scottish football. It wiped out debt at most lower league sides and it's set them up for years to come. Bigotry, prejudice and hatred in Scotland wouldn't go away if "Rangers" / Sevco or whatever you want to call them goes away. We can see that clearly from the hordes of ant English SNP voters we have in this country What ? A couple of league games against the new club in front of a few thousand fans each time has set these clubs up for "years to come" - you have to be joking ! Go tell that to the boards of Clyde or Brechin who are both publicly bemoaning their current financial plight and those are just the two to do it openly. That money will have cleared debts and possibly set these clubs up for a season or two at the most so not exactly the bright new dawn by the saviours of Scottish football you describe. Rangers have done more harm to the Scottish game in the last 10 years than they will ever fix in the next 50. As was stated in the posts before your sounds like a post lifted straight from the rangers media forums ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie88 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think overall it's a good point, the club would benefit for extra cash, however, do we want our stadium polluted with the blue vermin... Probably not! I decided after the opening night of the season that I would return to Ibrox and listen to their fans spout their pish. Wether or not we give them extra seats they will still sing those songs... Not really sure what the "right" thing to do would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Why the debate Do what we always do Sevco fans will be in our stands no matter what We don't make it hard for them to do so. Down in England if an away team sell out their allocation Any fan wanting a ticket for the home end have to be in the data base to get a ticket Doesn't happen here If the premiership had stadiums as empty as ours I'm sure that would all change. We are a business but fans think from the heart rather than getting cash in when we could do with extra cash for the playing side. That said I respect different opinions in this as supporting a team is a emotional realshinship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 If the premiership had stadiums as empty as ours I'm sure that would all change. We are a business but fans think from the heart rather than getting cash in when we could do with extra cash for the playing side. That said I respect different opinions in this as supporting a team is a emotional realshinship. The ground i was at was empty as ours in the home end Wigan v Middlesbourgh I had to get the programme seller to get me a ticket He was also a Saints fan that helped Seems there a few due to the friendly we played there back a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 As others have said, if this is a meaningless game for us and if they are going to win the league and celebrate at our stadium I for one wouldn't want to be anywhere near the place. Give them as many seats as we can at £30 a pop and make a few bob. It would help soften the blow. The alternative of giving them their usual allocation seems daft for the following reasons. 1. We would lose the chance to earn a few needed pounds. 2. They would be celebrating anyhow and it would be just as pain without gain. 3. There could be a safety issue in that they would buy tickets for our end and cause chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I don't care, I really don't. If I ever get to see a home win for the not insignificant amount of money I spent on my season ticket then my interest level's may alter but until that time I couldn't give a flying LordPityMe about this. It is January, we have not won at home in the league (and it's only 2nd tier football now) so I really don't care. Care not do I indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr rotund Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I don't think we would make a substantial enough amount of money for me to consider vacating my seat. I would rather give them 1 stand, but i know that the very least our BOD will do is give them half the west! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 If we made enough money to buy an extra player then I'd take their money, if i didn't have a season ticket i wouldn't go. To sit and listen to the bigoted bile gives me the dry boak... the rare victories against the bigot brothers are the only thing that makes it worth going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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