Frank McGarvey' wonky legs Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 The games where we have won and won well are when he has played. Ayr home & away, Morton away, Hibs home. It makes us more attacking but at the same time more open at the back. Tough call and I think we will stick with Eck and Irvine and make sure we are harder to beat and then look to change it if we need to chase the win later in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintGlenburn Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Injury and illness have disrupted his fitness in recent weeks. I would think there's a good chance he'll start at home to Raith, as we go with a very attacking mindset. I'd put him in place of Eckersley at left back. Stelios over Eckersley every day of the week. Much better player IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 This is a must-win game. We need goals. Stelios is a proven goal threat, Eckersley is not. A no-brainer for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Urquhart Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Stelios offers something different and unexpected. We need that against this lot who will sit in for the draw. Still think we will win........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Overall, Stelios is the best full back at the club, and is also better than most full backs who have left the club over the years. If he remains third choice, and we stay up, then that'll be fantastic, but we'll be staying up in spite of not starting our best full back, not because of it. Some nice theories about him being a shit defender and an impact sub. He's a proven impact starter and game changer. Hibs couldn't lay a glove on him. The crucial third goal that took the game out of Ayr's reach wasn't happening with any other full back coming down that flank, etc. However, Eckersley is a mate of Jack's, and Stelios is effortlessly cooler than the normally comparatively debonair Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambud Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Overall, Stelios is the best full back at the club, and is also better than most full backs who have left the club over the years. If he remains third choice, and we stay up, then that'll be fantastic, but we'll be staying up in spite of not starting our best full back, not because of it. Some nice theories about him being a shit defender and an impact sub. He's a proven impact starter and game changer. Hibs couldn't lay a glove on him. The crucial third goal that took the game out of Ayr's reach wasn't happening with any other full back coming down that flank, etc. However, Eckersley is a mate of Jack's, and Stelios is effortlessly cooler than the normally comparatively debonair Jack. He has started in (and starred in) our convincing wins. People talk about him not being as good defensively as the other two yet the only time I remember a defensive error from him that cost us a goal was where he narrowly missed cutting out a ball out to the morton winger. If he had cut the ball out he would have lead another attack, he missed and they went up and scored. I can remember lots of times that Irvine has cost us goals, and I can remember lots of times when Eckersley has lost possession putting pressure on us. I agree Stelios is my favourite full back at the club. Even in his "failed" outing as midfielder it was his ball through to Cammy Smith that freed him up to run directly at Dumbarton which caused them all sorts of confusion allowing him to slip in Kyle McGennis to score the opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidebud Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Agree with all the pro-Stelios comments above - hopefully Jack thinks the same way. Stelios must start. The other two regular full backs have done a decent shift - especially Irvine in 2017 - so I am not slating them by any means. Personally speaking, I'd rest Eckersley to accommodate him Stelios has a star quality/game change ability about him at this level; so throw him in and let him do his thing. I don't know what that'll be - and neither will Raith. Edited April 28, 2017 by southsidebud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'd be tempted to give Todd a start in place of Morgan, who could do a great job from the bench. I'd also start Stelios in place of Eckersley, to give us more going forward. I'd stick with Smith and Loy's movement up top to create space for the midfield to exploit and have Sutton to bring on later on, along with Morgan, to give Raith something else to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley brazilians Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) If you want to score goals you play stelios. Raith will shut up shop like Dumbarton did.but what we failed to do with Dumbarton was get the ball to feet in their box kept putting cross balls in .they dealt with them.but burst in to their box or pass it in their. Its a goal or a penalty.and if its a penalty.lets get some practice in today. Edited April 28, 2017 by Paisley brazilians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Paisley brazilians said: If you want to score goals you play stelios. Raith will shut up shop like Dumbarton did.but what we failed to do with Dumbarton was get the ball to feet in their box kept putting cross balls in .they dealt with them.but burst in to their box or pass it in their. Its a goal or a penalty.and if its a penalty.lets get some practice in today. Scoring goals isn't our problem, it's preventing them so whoever are our best defenders are the priority IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambud Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Scoring goals isn't our problem when Stelios is on the pitch so he should play. Fify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BEN Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'd play him every week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 We all know Ross will play Eckersley. Despite the games Stelios has changed it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Just think its fantastic , the options we have are supurb , Stellios seems to thrive playing as an attacking full back , and along with Morgan will terrorise their right back tomorrow , that said Eckersley might be more suited to playing a tighter game away from home like next weeks game . So much at stake in tomorrow's game. COYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 What has hapened to leselec ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Horses for courses. It's highly unlikely Raith will come to Paisley and play an expansive game and put constant pressure on our defence so we need to open them up. Stelios will help do that so should start. Edited April 29, 2017 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leselec Posted April 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 10 hours ago, shull said: What has hapened to leselec ? I am still here (in Australia) hoping Saints can avoid the drop as I think we can push on next year for promotion to the Premiership. Jack Ross has assembled a good squad of players & with a few new additions the writing is on the wall, we are on our way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Eckersley is the better defensively, Stelios the better going forward. Both are decent players in their own ways. It's a game we want to win that requires goals so Stelios is a good option if we are struggling to break them down, a maverick, something different. Personally I feel we should start our best defender (Eckersley) and rely on the strikers and midfield for goals with Stelios as the"wildcard" off the bench if required. Best of both worlds really. Stelios is going to have to improve defensively to be a 1st choice full back even at this level but that can be taught. He's a real talent though especially being two footed. Playing him further forward didn't really work but it's worth working on imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Stelios has scored 3 and was responsible for the loss of 1 goal. So that gives him a 2 goal advantage over Eck. I like Eck but Stelios is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 9 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Eckersley is the better defensively, Stelios the better going forward. Both are decent players in their own ways. It's a game we want to win that requires goals so Stelios is a good option if we are struggling to break them down, a maverick, something different. Personally I feel we should start our best defender (Eckersley) and rely on the strikers and midfield for goals with Stelios as the"wildcard" off the bench if required. Best of both worlds really. Stelios is going to have to improve defensively to be a 1st choice full back even at this level but that can be taught. He's a real talent though especially being two footed. Playing him further forward didn't really work but it's worth working on imo. Doubt anyone can question Jack's decision tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Doubt anyone can question Jack's decision tonight. I'm sure some will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 I'm sure Stelios is one of the players that Jack & co will work with between now and next season and we'll benefit from the investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidebud Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Doubt anyone can question Jack's decision tonight. Eckersley had a great game and warranted his start. Jack was right. I wanted him rested for Stelios - we'll never know for sure if that would have gotten us a bigger victory but I will concede it as unlikely Stelios is however as cool as a cool thing left outside on a cool evening to cool down a bit more - who can also play a bit - and who must be signed for next season. He also has cool hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Stelios came on, flicked a ball up and over an opponent's head with the outside of his foot, ran around the guy who was inside-out by now and ran onto his own flick... he's a defender. Defenders in Scotland aren't supposed to do this sort of shit... it was magnificent and I roared with approval. If there was a B&W Army award for cult hero - the boy would be a shoe-in. He can play, he seems to have personality, and he entertains. Surely we need to see Stelios in the stripes next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Eck was superb today. I favoured Stelios starting, but Jack called it right.... again. I still love Stelios, though. Edited April 29, 2017 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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