Should John Needham resign due to inappropriate comments?

[mattman]

Can people stop replying to bazs same crap posts, would save me some time getting through the thread 😂 better off ignored the guy could start an argument in an empty room.

Edited December 6, 2021 by mattman

[bazil85]

1 hour ago, mattman said:

Can people stop replying to bazs same crap posts, would save me some time getting through the thread 😂 better off ignored the guy could start an argument in an empty room.

Another ‘this is how to use the internet’ warrior 😂

(8 hours after my last post 🤦‍♂️)

Edited December 6, 2021 by bazil85

[Cookie Monster]

Don't quote [emoji849]

Mattman asked nicely [emoji16]

Can people stop replying to bazs same crap posts, would save me some time getting through the thread [emoji23] better off ignored the guy could start an argument in an empty room.

[MenstrieSaint]

Can someone in the know please clarify how many St Mirren shares Kibble actually own ? Is it %27 of St Mirrens total shares or is it %27 of the shares that Smisa wished to buy to have ownership and control of the club? Is there a reason why %27 was the amount of ownership that Kibble agreed to buy ? 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

27% of the total.

Yes.

[Eric Arthur Blair]

To elaborate on the 27%, a shareholding of 25% and above allows for a veto of any "special resolutions" put forward by the other shareholders.

[Maboza]

10 hours ago, MenstrieSaint said:

Can someone in the know please clarify how many St Mirren shares Kibble actually own ? Is it %27 of St Mirrens total shares or is it %27 of the shares that Smisa wished to buy to have ownership and control of the club? Is there a reason why %27 was the amount of ownership that Kibble agreed to buy ? 

They presumably wouldn’t have had enough power with less than 25% investment as per the response above. 
 

IIRC, the 27% included a percentage of shares that GLS was previously going to hold on to. By adding these in to the Kibble proposal it took them over the 25%. 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Maboza

[truesaint]

57 minutes ago, Maboza said:

They presumably wouldn’t have had enough power with less than 25% investment as per the response above. 
 

IIRC, the 27% included a percentage of shares that GLS was previously going to hold on to. By adding these in to the Kibble proposal it took them over the 25%. 

 

So if there really is issues internally you would think they would be happy to go if they got their money back. Cue John McGinn to Manu to solve that problem. We have first dibs on buying their shares but presumably only if they want to sell. Hopefully whatever it is is resolved quickly and we can move forward without any further disruption. Bit of a shambles on all fronts at the moment.

[Brilliant Disguise]

12 minutes ago, truesaint said:

So if there really is issues internally you would think they would be happy to go if they got their money back. Cue John McGinn to Manu to solve that problem. We have first dibs on buying their shares but presumably only if they want to sell. Hopefully whatever it is is resolved quickly and we can move forward without any further disruption. Bit of a shambles on all fronts at the moment.

All of this is hypothetical until real facts are released on the perceived issues.

First the McGinn money if forthcoming is the clubs money not the shareholders funds. This could not be used to purchase the shares (technically it could, however the club would become the shareholder, which makes it unlikely to happen)

If Kibble have an issue with the board and the representatives then It should be addressed at board level. If and its a big IF Kibble have gone legal on their own board then this is fundamentally wrong on many fronts and potentially dangerous. Going legal on a board is bully boy tactics to drive your own agenda, particularly when you have the financial resources to take on the board. 

Again another IF. If this occurs the problem lies fully at the door with SMISA on a number of points

They should have checked who they were getting in to bed with (£35m/year business V £12/month/member organisation). David verses Goliath (only David has the largest shareholding and Goliath has the resources, funds and supply chain in their back pocket)

They should have checked who they were pushing through on to the board. Giving their members one candidate to vote for or against is not a democratic process. (What background checks were done on JN. Why was he told not to post on social media after his appointment)

Keeping quiet on the whole JN issue has done them no favours, especially when the Kibble threw him under the bus. Then People very close to the SMISA treasurer promoting crowdfunding to pay the JN fine, sends out the message to Kibble that JN comments are acceptable.

 

[waldorf34]

We needed John the man with banking experience, but we got John the fan instead.

[Rascal]

9 hours ago, waldorf34 said:

We needed John the man with banking experience, but we got John the fan instead.

Sadly. Has he gone yet?

[Cookie Monster]

Sadly. Has he gone yet?

Heard he'll resign once someone admits to making up an imaginary ambassador story. [emoji848]

[Slarti]

9 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

Heard he'll resign once someone admits to making up an imaginary ambassador story.

Maybe he met the ambassador at a dinner party in Wishaw.

[Scott-Leeds]

Maybe he met the ambassador at a dinner party in Wishaw.

Or, in the queue in Waitrose ?

[Rascal]

And…John remains in post with a game at Ibrox coming up. I don’t think we will get a good reception. Some might say. Nothing new there but there is. Our chairman will bear the responsibility for any problems faced by our fans.

Edited December 8, 2021 by Rascal

[BuddieinEK]

And…John remains in post with a game at Ibrox coming up. I don’t think we will get a good reception. Some might say. Nothing new there but there is. Our chairman will bear the responsibility for any problems faced by our fans.

"bear"!

I see what you did there. [emoji12]

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[DougJamie]

I hope we end up with a point per page of this drivel at season end might keep us in league

[portmahomack saint]

57 minutes ago, Rascal said:

And…John remains in post with a game at Ibrox coming up. I don’t think we will get a good reception. Some might say. Nothing new there but there is. Our chairman will bear the responsibility for any problems faced by our fans.

We'll probably need to tell them about it first everyone I've spoke too know's nothing about it 

Anyway it's not like they need an excuse... 

[faraway saint]

3 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

We'll probably need to tell them about it first everyone I've spoke too know's nothing about it 

Anyway it's not like they need an excuse... 

On point 1, I love when people come out with this drivel, so just to join in this game "everyone" (2 people) I've spoken to are well aware of the Needham fiasco.

On point 2, tragically, you're right there, but they will use any pish they can find, and this is just right up their street. 

Edited December 8, 2021 by faraway saint

[antrin]

A good missive from SMISA this morning.  Measured, sensible and positive.

a rational approach to John Needham’s jokes.  And to any ongoing frIction with Kibble.

SMISA still has my full support.

 On this.

[TediousTom]

On 12/7/2021 at 1:18 PM, waldorf34 said:

We needed John the man with banking experience, but we got John the fan instead.

I like John the fan

John the fan the straight talking man

 

[waldorf34]

Someone  mentioned the SLO s have a regular  monthly meeting with the club ,last one was October  ,has there been one since?

[Cookie Monster]

Someone  mentioned the SLO s have a regular  monthly meeting with the club ,last one was October  ,has there been one since?

You do know you can ask the SLO'S directly?

[Rascal]

3 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

4 hours ago, waldorf34 said:

Someone  mentioned the SLO s have a regular  monthly meeting with the club ,last one was October  ,has there been one since?

You do know you can ask the SLO'S directly?

And good guys that they are, they respond quickly.

[Cookie Monster]

Ffs, thought i was replying to waldo, I need a drink. [emoji848]