irvine_buddie Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'm not arguing with your logic but we would still have to pay off Teale and Goodwin or put them in charge neither of which will appeal to the bod. A new manager would probably have January signing targets (more money). A new manager wouldn't get us a league cup run as it´so too late and if ITC play to form a new manager isn't going to get us a scottish cup run either. So, much as I would like to see a new man in charge, I just don't think it's going to happen. Much as it's embarrassing to have season ticket holders stay away it doesn't hurt the bod financially, so it really would need a very sharp decline in the pay at the door fans before they´re even consider sacking the current incumbents. I'd hope Xmas if nothing improves but it wouldn´t surprise me if it was the split, and even more likely if it was not at all. I was assuming they would just keep Teale and Goodwin on as coaches/assistants/whatever they do. I actually agree it won't happen but it should. I did. Not sure what you mean, we obiously budget the "managers wages".. if we pay off TC's contract then thats an unbudgeted lump sum.. then bring in a new manager who recevies the budgeted "manager wages". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorizaar Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 if we pay off TC's contract then thats an unbudgeted lump sum.. then bring in a new manager who recevies the budgeted "manager wages".[/color][/font][/size] Doubt it would be a lump sum. He would just continue to be paid his wage. Derek Adams and Terry Butcher are both still on the payroll of their former clubs and I think this happened when Gus left too.With that arrangement you can afford a sacking but other budgets would take the hit for however long they are paid after going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie88 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Doubt it would be a lump sum. He would just continue to be paid his wage. Derek Adams and Terry Butcher are both still on the payroll of their former clubs and I think this happened when Gus left too. With that arrangement you can afford a sacking but other budgets would take the hit for however long they are paid after going. Did Gus not come to the end of his contract like Danny did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellV1 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Gus had a 1 year rolling contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Not sure but I think Gus was on a Rolling Contract and left May 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Still can't quite believe that TC is on a 2 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Still can't quite believe that TC is on a 2 year deal. Oh you will , let's say in about 18 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad saint 2 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 i cant believe hes still there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I can't believe it's not better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledfan Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I can't believe we have managed 8 points with Tommy in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dare Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 See that Tommy reckons he has solved our problems by concentrating solely on shooting practice in training ....... mmm... take a look at our goals against column Tommy, might be a wee issue there as well m8 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 This manager I am utterly convinced is a nice man but clueless. I watched his interview on STV and not once did he mention our inability to defend properly. We simply can't keep s clean sheet and of course if you can you get s precious point. Time to go Tommy please please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dare Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Maybe Tommy is going for the old Kevin Keegan Newcastle philosophy of you score 4 and we'll score 5 ....... based on recent performances I can see us getting that half right ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 "All we need is a goal" ---- Tommy Craig Yeah Tommy , we know ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 But apparently our strikers have been banging them in right left and centre all week in training. BUT it was against Cheesy and Goodwin!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie88 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 But apparently our strikers have been banging them in right left and centre all week in training. BUT it was against Cheesy and Goodwin!!!!!!!!! Goodwin was probably suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvine_buddie Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 It really is a shocking business decision to give a completely unexperienced manager who was part of the previous failed management team a 2 year contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastlandssaint Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/feels-like-its-been-two-4663814 64 Today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/feels-like-its-been-two-4663814 64 Today. His interviews get worse and worse, he's clearly not the full shilling if he thinks it's just scoring goals that's the problem. Do us all a favour and chuck it Tommy please, your turning us into a laughing stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 But apparently our strikers have been banging them in right left and centre all week in training. BUT it was against Cheesy and Goodwin!!!!!!!!! Cruel but amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 His interviews get worse and worse, he's clearly not the full shilling if he thinks it's just scoring goals that's the problem. Do us all a favour and chuck it Tommy please, your turning us into a laughing stock. Ach FFS get a grip man. Losing isn't fun but allowing it to affect you like this is not good news. And you're doing everyone's head in with this constant wallowing in self pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) I never bother reading past who's fit & who's not in the papers, 99% of the time managers & players just speak in clichés about how the squad's a good bunch of guys, that spirit is good at training, just need a break, etc - the guy's (TC in this instance) gotta talk the talk, I'm sure he now realises that we have problems at both ends of the park, after all we're regularly reminded that the management/players read this site (more fool them). Looking at the wider picture as I've said previously I don't see TC resigning and given our money worries we're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Having said that I remember SG saying Tom Hendrie's job was the safest in Scottish football as we couldn't afford to sack him just before that ICT game, perhaps I'm in the minority but do we really want that sorta humiliation? As ever I try to remember that it's always been a bumpy ride, being a Saints supporter, and will hope for a change in our current fortunes............... Edited November 21, 2014 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madball Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Not sure but I think Gus was on a Rolling Contract and left May 2010. Which was partly the reason he didn't get another job for a year. We were still paying his wages until 2011 and if he joined another club he would have likely taken a pay cut as we wouldn't continue to pay him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flareybob Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Tommy Craig's comments in today's PDE are pathetic he claims critics who say he is blaming injuries on the poor form to them he says "I think it's naughty". It's the same drivel he comes out with every single week, excuse after excuse. A defeat tomorrow and he has got to go immediately, we could be bottom of the league tomorrow night with a trenchant buffon still as manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie88 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Tommy Craig's comments in today's PDE are pathetic he claims critics who say he is blaming injuries on the poor form to them he says "I think it's naughty". It's the same drivel he comes out with every single week, excuse after excuse. A defeat tomorrow and he has got to go immediately, we could be bottom of the league tomorrow night with a trenchant buffon still as manager. I would take Buffon as our new manager. Could still do a job between the sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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