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Saint Mirren V Hibernian 29.9.18

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9 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Sorry, this in/out of the dug out it total garbage.

Writing off last week as a "blip" is, IMO, extremely premature.

Lucky to get out of the group, oh, you forgot lucky to beat Dundee.......................more subjective rubbish.

It's early days, our 2 home games have been encouraging against 2 teams who will be well above us at the end of the season.

Overall, our away game, despite what you say, was a very poor result.

Early days. 

 

 

 

Do you have anything constructive to add. Must be difficult for you I realise when you neither go to games or watch golf rather than catch our games on line.

Get real F Man

Try going to games.

Then give us the benefit of your opinion.

Others who were there understandably see things differently. ... you just don't see anything.

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1 minute ago, St.Ricky said:

Do you have anything constructive to add. Must be difficult for you I realise when you neither go to games or watch golf rather than catch our games on line.

Get real F Man

Try going to games.

Then give us the benefit of your opinion.

Others who were there understandably see things differently. ... you just don't see anything.

Imagine, how sad making up you attend a game, dear oh dear. :byebye

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1 hour ago, TopCat said:

Even more abuse than usual this week. Absolutely loving your feedback guys, keep it coming.

Back to the football.

Assuming we don’t win at Pittodrie next week, OK will have had a worse start than AS did.

OK will have had 2 or 1 point(s) from his first 4 league games. AS got 3 points from 4 league games (and got us out our league cup group) before he was sacked.

The question then becomes, now we’ve accepted that sacking a manager with 3 points after 4 games is okay, where do we draw the line for the current manager?

Of course the scenario here is OK says my team is losing every week cause it’s Stubbs players. He could say I can’t motivate and organise this group of players to an extent that they avoid a 3 zip hounding in Hamilton.

Not saying this will happen, but we could feasibly be 5+ points adrift at the bottom by Christmas (not unlikely when you look at the fixtures) and OK could claim diminished responsibility.

Perhaps he has a point.

We’re now stuck with a bizarre scenario where we have a manager who was deemed not up to it by our board when he was first interviewed in May.

Who could have a worse record than the guy who they thought was up to it in May, but the current manager can’t be sacked because he couldn’t sign his own players because he wasn’t good enough for the job (according to our board) in the first place.

Thanks Gordon!

 

I was going to leave you a "confused" emoji, but decided that wouldn't have done this post justice. Where is the "you're more barking mad than Mr Mad, the winner of the barking mad competition 2018" emoji? Get it sorted Div!

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I'm pretty sure it's because he's still massively unfit and doesn't have the legs to run back.
Well if not.as if we get hundreds of corners and free kicks plus if he was able to score, he wouldn't need to run back quickly But yes i see your point and likely the manager is telling him to stay back.

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28 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Imagine, how sad making up you attend a game, dear oh dear. :byebye

Sad little man.  thought you might do this.. took the precaution of speaking with other forom posters there. Hoped not to have to embarrass you.  But if you insist...... 

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Even more abuse than usual this week. Absolutely loving your feedback guys, keep it coming.

 

Back to the football.

 

Assuming we don’t win at Pittodrie next week, OK will have had a worse start than AS did.

 

OK will have had 2 or 1 point(s) from his first 4 league games. AS got 3 points from 4 league games (and got us out our league cup group) before he was sacked.

 

The question then becomes, now we’ve accepted that sacking a manager with 3 points after 4 games is okay, where do we draw the line for the current manager?

 

Of course the scenario here is OK says my team is losing every week cause it’s Stubbs players. He could say I can’t motivate and organise this group of players to an extent that they avoid a 3 zip hounding in Hamilton.

 

Not saying this will happen, but we could feasibly be 5+ points adrift at the bottom by Christmas (not unlikely when you look at the fixtures) and OK could claim diminished responsibility.

 

Perhaps he has a point.

 

We’re now stuck with a bizarre scenario where we have a manager who was deemed not up to it by our board when he was first interviewed in May.

 

Who could have a worse record than the guy who they thought was up to it in May, but the current manager can’t be sacked because he couldn’t sign his own players because he wasn’t good enough for the job (according to our board) in the first place.

 

Thanks Gordon!

 

 

 

You do know that AS wasn't sacked only because he had 3 points from 4 games.

You're trying too hard Lex.

After your one man mission against our 2nd last manager you should really learn to give it a rest.

Im not sure if you do it for attention or just like winding people up but it's getting tiresome.

Still, at least you're consistent

 

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Decent second half from us but never really thought we would get anything out of it.

Tough competitive league. Seems no time since Hibs and us were battling it out in the Championship. They are a bigger club and have moved on, we always take one step forward then two back for some reason.

Need to give OK time and hope for the best but will be a hard season, again.

 

Edited by Gordon Urquhart

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4 hours ago, TopCat said:

Even more abuse than usual this week. Absolutely loving your feedback guys, keep it coming.

Back to the football.

Assuming we don’t win at Pittodrie next week, OK will have had a worse start than AS did.

OK will have had 2 or 1 point(s) from his first 4 league games. AS got 3 points from 4 league games (and got us out our league cup group) before he was sacked.

The question then becomes, now we’ve accepted that sacking a manager with 3 points after 4 games is okay, where do we draw the line for the current manager?

Of course the scenario here is OK says my team is losing every week cause it’s Stubbs players. He could say I can’t motivate and organise this group of players to an extent that they avoid a 3 zip hounding in Hamilton.

Not saying this will happen, but we could feasibly be 5+ points adrift at the bottom by Christmas (not unlikely when you look at the fixtures) and OK could claim diminished responsibility.

Perhaps he has a point.

We’re now stuck with a bizarre scenario where we have a manager who was deemed not up to it by our board when he was first interviewed in May.

Who could have a worse record than the guy who they thought was up to it in May, but the current manager can’t be sacked because he couldn’t sign his own players because he wasn’t good enough for the job (according to our board) in the first place.

Thanks Gordon!

I have never known anyone to to put forward such nonsense as a supposedly valid argument, there are stats, stats and then there is TC, nuf said.  

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3 hours ago, St.Ricky said:
6 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Either you weren't there or just read the BBC stats..............

I'm going for both, just proves you are unable to put any concise point of view across on almost any subject. :lol:

I couldn't have been more concise. 

I was there.  You were not. 

Longer version:  Early in the match Hibs had around 70 per cent possession.  We had similar in the second half.  This finished about equal. 

They could have gone two up when a Hibs player headed straight at Samson. 

We could have scored when P McGinn turned up on what could be called the old inside left position but blasted over. 

Jackson broke free but shot went past. 

Hibs had several players booked for professional fouls and several were booked because they committed far more fouls than we did. 

Jack Baird didn't put a foot wrong and was my man of the match.

Crowd of over 6000 was anounced at the game. Great backing from the stands and standing ovation for the team at the end of the game. 

Good debuts from both Jackson and Jamieson. 

I suggest that you revisit and lessons you might have had in comprehension. 

I know your school was approved. 

Yes; it could even have been 'special'.  :D

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7 minutes ago, St.Ricky said:

Yet again you don't have a clue other than reading posts on here and reports on the game.  Try going along.  It is enjoyable. 

Give it a f**king rest. You are polluting every thread with the patter.

everyone knows he doesn’t go to games. It’s hardly like you’ve stumbled on some sort of revelation.

just stop talking to him.

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11 hours ago, renfrew said:

Maybe telling them why he doesn't go up for corners or free kicks  :rolleyes:

He did..... ONCE. Funnily enough I had just asked the question why he didn't when, he did. Perhaps it's down to, as another poster suggests, he isn't yet fit enough to get back for any quick turnover.

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11 hours ago, stlucifer said:

Very disappointing first half. It was as clear as day that Gray was being given too much space. I was saying this and had just mentioned he needed watching at the back post when he scored,..... at the back post. Second half saw a complete turnaround in performance. I thought young MacPherson was out of his depth and should have been subbed. How wrong was I? He had a superb last 35 minutes.

Jackson looked good but not yet up to speed.  Jamieson looks a prospect. Speedy and never gave the defenders a minutes piece when he came on.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Flynn as a MotM performance. I thought he was fantastic throughout. 

the second half has given small shoots but there is a long way to go.

This is exactly how I saw it as well. I genuinely thought MacPherson was lucky to even make it to half time, but his second half performance was excellent. If only he hadn't missed that sitter it would have been even better.

I also agree that Flynn (and McGinn also for me) were good in the second half. Surprised at the negativity towards them when they were the ones driving the midfield forward in the second half and creating the chances.

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10 hours ago, TopCat said:

 

 


Negativity against Stubbs OK.

Negativity against OK not OK?

OK.

Wish we were lucky enough to get out our league cup group last year. Or the year before.

 

Every manager must get at least one transfer window , Stubbs failed dramatically in his one and only window , Ross's first widow and our following , dramatic recovery is a key reason that he is already at a big club. Let's hope that OK can hold onto the shirt tails of Hamilton , Dundee and even 'Well and have a great window in January. I'm not really that confident at this point in time but he seems to have good connections with agents etc so we must bear with him for now and keep our fingers crossed.

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I seen enough yesterday to know we have a confidence  problem. Oran pointed that out also in one of his interviews 

First half we looked nervous  while the second half we came out our shell . It also got the stands rocking again.

It will take time I for one can see goals coming with Jackson and Jamerson up front.

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OK is looking at a far better calibre of player than Stubbs ever did. 2 signings so far when tight restrictions limit choice and both are better than Stubbs choices for those positions. Things are already improving. We just have to shitfest our way until January.

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13 minutes ago, norman said:

This is exactly how I saw it as well. I genuinely thought MacPherson was lucky to even make it to half time, but his second half performance was excellent. If only he hadn't missed that sitter it would have been even better.

I also agree that Flynn (and McGinn also for me) were good in the second half. Surprised at the negativity towards them when they were the ones driving the midfield forward in the second half and creating the chances.

Just watched the highlights.  What a ball from McGinn to set up MacPherson that was.

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16 hours ago, Bud the Baker said:

According to TC our sub Jamieson.

"He’s a big lad for 19, fair throwing himself about a bit. I like him."
Last season we had players who were quality for the level and could afford to play an expansive game.

This season were a division higher & struggling so my advice would be to revert to simple direct football - big guy, quick guy upfront. 

 

Never struck me as big at all, wee aggressive type was how I saw him. Odd that some thought he looked big !

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1 hour ago, Sonny said:

OK is looking at a far better calibre of player than Stubbs ever did. 2 signings so far when tight restrictions limit choice and both are better than Stubbs choices for those positions. Things are already improving. We just have to shitfest our way until January.

The problem come the transfer window will be how we off load some of Stubbs junk as we will have to before we can bring anyone in. The squad is too big as it is. It's going to cost us too. I'd be wary of expecting any JR style squad rebuild.

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1 minute ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

The problem come the transfer window will be how we off load some of Stubbs junk as we will have to before we can bring anyone in. The squad is too big as it is. It's going to cost us too. I'd be wary of expecting any JR style squad rebuild.

GLS has already said that there will be money for the window , and that the contracts/loans of some players will be cut short. I believe his exact words were "there is scope to do that if we need to". I have no doubt that if OK wants a complete squad overhaul in January , he'll get one !

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11 hours ago, St.Ricky said:

Sad little man.  thought you might do this.. took the precaution of speaking with other forom posters there. Hoped not to have to embarrass you.  But if you insist...... 

Decent day out yesterday.  Driven to the game by a Hibee and  Ricky bought me a pint. He was definitely there. Decent performance from the team and a lot of positives in the second half.

I was bemused by the amount of space Gray was given when he scored the opener but apparently there was a bit of jiggery pokery going on  in the box and players were impeded. I reckon Sammy should have caught it before it even reached Gray but that aside I Thought Jackson was decent but I'm not sure he was  man of the match. I thought Flynn put in a good shift and Cammy MacPherson could have edged it too.

Jamieson looked the part when he came on and the way he was mixing it with the Hibs players was very encouraging. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him.

Things can only get better. There's been a few comparisons between OK and Stubbs records but I prefer watching OK's team to Stubbs team. OK might not be amassing points yet but I'm confident  they will come.

After the game I was driven back to NB where every Hibs fan I know seemed to be frequenting the pubs and having a few Jibes at my expense but with the two Edinburgh Teams sitting at the top of the league the atmosphere was good.

The only blight of the evening was a slight skirmish, not even handbags, which resulted in a guy in a Celtic top getting ejected from the pub.

It seems  like you can change the two teams at the top of of the league but you can't stop the old firm causing bother.

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

Never struck me as big at all, wee aggressive type was how I saw him. Odd that some thought he looked big !

He wasn't tall but he was broader than the rest of our Team and wasn't shy about flexing his muscles. Looks promising

 

Edited by East Lothian Saint

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