Cumbriansaint72 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, alansaint said: At last. Some sanity. Sometimes, just sometimes even if a player not progressing at one club can go somewhere else on loan or perm transfer and be totally different. Last seasons transformation in Jesse Langar at west ham proved that imo. Might just be the thing for Cammy instead of letting a career drift away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ethan said: We cant force the boy out the door. We are at the mercy of clubs wanting to buy. If Hibs hadnt messed up he would be gone for a decent deal IMO. Scott Allan would have been just what we need. But we can throw everything we can to try and keep him, even a gentleman’s agreement, bit like McLean but with better value, I’d say between 750k/1M, his performance tonight will definitely add to his value. Probably dreaming a bit but other clubs seem to get that loyalty out players and in the end both the player and the club are rewarded. Edited September 1, 2021 by mattman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbriansaint72 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, mattman said: But we can throw everything we can to try and keep him, even a gentleman’s agreement, bit like McLean but with better value, I’d say between 750k/1M, his performance tonight will definitely add to his value. Probably dreaming a bit but other clubs seem to get that loyalty out players and in the end both the player and the club are rewarded. A fairly substantial wage increase with a sensible release clause i would like to think would be offered now he has got into national team so that any move would be to a higher level, not the likes of hibs or dons but realistic target would be at least English championship if not lower epl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cumbriansaint72 said: A fairly substantial wage increase with a sensible release clause i would like to think would be offered now he has got into national team so that any move would be to a higher level, not the likes of hibs or dons but realistic target would be at least English championship if not lower epl. I would suggest we don't go anywhere near this and is another reason we "lose" so many players. All that being "sensible" stuff, got to work within out budget, whatever that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbriansaint72 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, faraway saint said: I would suggest we don't go anywhere near this and is another reason we "lose" so many players. All that being "sensible" stuff, got to work within out budget, whatever that means. I wouldn't go as far to suggest a ridiculous increase but there must be a certain room for manoeuvre within budget, whether it be certain bonuses or whatever. Other thing is now, does he see his future with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Cumbriansaint72 said: I wouldn't go as far to suggest a ridiculous increase but there must be a certain room for manoeuvre within budget, whether it be certain bonuses or whatever. Other thing is now, does he see his future with us? I'd suggest he doesn't see a future with us. And with that, ta ta any big money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgsaint Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, mattman said: But we can throw everything we can to try and keep him, even a gentleman’s agreement, bit like McLean but with better value, I’d say between 750k/1M, his performance tonight will definitely add to his value. Probably dreaming a bit but other clubs seem to get that loyalty out players and in the end both the player and the club are rewarded. It would be great if we could get this but he left his last club after running his contract down so I think the best we can get is if someone gives us half the money offered during the summer in the January transfer window. Or we just accept that we get nothing at the end of the season and hope his performances justify not selling him this summer. Ideally we’d get all decent prospects on 3 year contracts so we can enjoy them for 2 years then sell them, but so far that’s not proved a great strategy, (McAllister and Brophy) and players agents probably encourage short deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 I am actually more annoyed that he punts Cammy...after Ross Stewart do we never learn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossCSmfc Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 MacPherson is a cracking player. Don’t understand people saying he hasn’t developed enough, he’s already better than the majority of our options in CM. Hope the new boy Ronan is good as Cammy as we’re going to need him when Flynn inevitably gets injured and Power gets ousted for discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Calls for a McGrath contact extension, can't see it happening. Would love to be proved wrong, though there is no loyalty in football. He was ready to leave at the beginning of this week. He could have a very good pick of clubs on a pre-contract come January, without a transfer value becoming a stumbling block. One thing I will say is, his international call up whilst playing for us, is a great selling point for our club, when trying to pick up any future transfer targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 I'd hoped after last season's league position and cup runs we'd be in a better position to have business, the right players in the right positions, before this point Here we are back like a diddy club scrambling around looking for players who nobody else wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Here we are back like a diddy club scrambling around looking for players who nobody else wants. They aren't exactly queuing up to get to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, pod said: They aren't exactly queuing up to get to us. Descent players I'm referring too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Descent players I'm referring too. You referring to our growing number of Irish Internationists. [emoji14] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Can’t believe another transfer window has Closed and Erwin hasn’t been snapped up 🤔🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Are we looking at the free market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, Ethan said: Are we looking at the free market Really hope so , if not it’s got to be seen as a big feck up , playing a certain set up and not have one of the major parts of the set up ,ie players with speed and the ability to put in a decent ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 No one seems to want Aaron Ramsey, just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, linwood buddie said: Really hope so , if not it’s got to be seen as a big feck up , playing a certain set up and not have one of the major parts of the set up ,ie players with speed and the ability to put in a decent ball. Delivering decent balls into the box isnt an issue with Tanser, McGrath and to a lesser extent Henderson. The only thing we really lack is pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, StanleySaint said: No one seems to want Aaron Ramsey, just saying. Apart from Juve, where he’s got a contract? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 That's where I got the black and white vision from then? I obviously missed that thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 hours ago, kevo_smfc said: Calls for a McGrath contact extension, can't see it happening. Would love to be proved wrong, though there is no loyalty in football. He was ready to leave at the beginning of this week. He could have a very good pick of clubs on a pre-contract come January, without a transfer value becoming a stumbling block. One thing I will say is, his international call up whilst playing for us, is a great selling point for our club, when trying to pick up any future transfer targets. Good point on international recognition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 6:18 PM, Hendo said: Delivering decent balls into the box isnt an issue with Tanser, McGrath and to a lesser extent Henderson. The only thing we really lack is pace. ...well, apart from a decent number of points and goals for, money, and tactical nous etc. Wish that was not true... Heard winger A F is signing for the Saints... but is it the Fakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said: ...well, apart from a decent number of points and goals for, money, and tactical nous etc. Wish that was not true... Heard winger A F is signing for the Saints... but is it the Fakes? Give it up you are never right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said: ...well, apart from a decent number of points and goals for, money, and tactical nous etc. Wish that was not true... Heard winger A F is signing for the Saints... but is it the Fakes? Aiden Fitzpatrick ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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