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6 minutes ago, Kemp said:

We are going in to the Alloa, Celtic and Hibs games with holes still all over the squad.

Pretty poor from the club in my opinion to again be underprepared for crucial games. Gus is supposed to working full time on ensuring this type of situation doesn't happen!

If everything were that easy.  The manager has said still business and out before the end of the window.  Regardless of squad we would expect beat Alloa home and lose to Septic away.  Hibs is the 27th so a good bit of time yet for the first game that you'd really speculate about the outcome.  

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Still 14 days till the window shuts. Ideally we'll have our business done before the last day , but as it stands,  there's still plenty of time to get the right players in. 

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5 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

He is and I suspect it is not that easy. It never is in January and even ones who look like  they are great don't always follow through and sign..

Have a you a list of realistic targets he has missed?

No, I don't have the time to work full time on drawing up a list of targets :lol: That's literally his job!

While I understand its not easy given our relatively lowly position in the food chain, the problems have been clear for months and I had rather hoped we would have had some business tied up for the window opening.

Seems odd to have therefore spent time pursuing a goalkeeper when we had Lyness on the books, to sign two more central midfielders, but to be going in to vital games still without a left back, any wingers, or a striker.

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2 minutes ago, David Mc said:

If everything were that easy.  The manager has said still business and out before the end of the window.  Regardless of squad we would expect beat Alloa home and lose to Septic away.  Hibs is the 27th so a good bit of time yet for the first game that you'd really speculate about the outcome.  

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Not been supporting St Mirren very long, have you?

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Whilst we are short of players still, it's worth reminding ourselves about how Dundee and Hamilton are getting with their signings.

I think we should trust Gus and Oran. This is their necks on the line if they f**k it up.

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4 minutes ago, Kemp said:

No, I don't have the time to work full time on drawing up a list of targets :lol: That's literally his job!

While I understand its not easy given our relatively lowly position in the food chain, the problems have been clear for months and I had rather hoped we would have had some business tied up for the window opening.

Seems odd to have therefore spent time pursuing a goalkeeper when we had Lyness on the books, to sign two more central midfielders, but to be going in to vital games still without a left back, any wingers, or a striker.

It is Gus's job and the others have their input too. It seems that not so many people were willing to be tied up in advance of the Window opening and we are still only at the mid point. The important issue is getting the best we can in, at whatever point we can manage it.

We do not know for sure yet but I strongly suspect Hladky is better than Lyness ;  Popesu is better than Jones ; Lyons will prove better than Smith and Tansey will prove better than McShane/Willock & Edwards combined.  The big loss is Hammill and you are correct in that signing a goal scorer is a most vital need - our management team know this for sure. These guys are the most difficult and in the most demand.  There is still time and a winger and FB would be most advantageous also.

We have to wait, watch and see  -   God give us patience, but please hurry up    :turtle

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OK hopeful that we might have at least one player in before the weekend, in today's PDE.

Also states that one or two might move on.

Although he says we're a few days away from finalising certain deals.

So more to come, but as OK states "You are in the laps of other clubs".

You only have to look at us with Cammy Smith. Dundee United thought everything was signed and sealed, then we shifted the goalposts, thus delaying his signing by several days.

Our fans would do well to remember to such instances before pishing their breeks.<_<

 

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I'm happy to see Dundee making an arse of it, but the expectation at St Mirren (based on the noises coming out the club) was that business was in place and would be done early. On four signings it has, but none of them in the key positions we need filled!

I'm sure it is a complex situation, we are surely keeping some budget aside for Lewis Morgan for example but haven't yet convinced him or his club we are the best option. I understand the point in waiting there. For the other positions though it doesn't look like we have much in the pipeline. I remain hopeful Kearney will make the right decisions around players coming in, but my expectations were for more based on what I had seen Gordon Scott and Gus MacPherson quoted as having said.

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1 minute ago, Kemp said:

I'm happy to see Dundee making an arse of it, but the expectation at St Mirren (based on the noises coming out the club) was that business was in place and would be done early. On four signings it has, but none of them in the key positions we need filled!

I'm sure it is a complex situation, we are surely keeping some budget aside for Lewis Morgan for example but haven't yet convinced him or his club we are the best option. I understand the point in waiting there. For the other positions though it doesn't look like we have much in the pipeline. I remain hopeful Kearney will make the right decisions around players coming in, but my expectations were for more based on what I had seen Gordon Scott and Gus MacPherson quoted as having said.

Judge them when the window has closed and the results have come in... that is when it counts.

I think Dee are in a far worse  position than us

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7 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

Judge them when the window has closed and the results have come in... that is when it counts.

I think Dee are in a far worse  position than us

I get your point, but the Alloa, Celtic and Hibs games all count too. It's been clear since August this was going to be a massively important window for us!

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Oran has just stated in an interview that there are possibilities which all depend on the other clubs' success or otherwise in recruiting/offloading. Getting Lewis back was possibly a target for us but that was never going to happen on the 1st Jan and may not happen at all. We will have to wait and see. It is naive to think that we had 10 players all lined up to sign on the dotted line in the first week in January. Identifying players is one thing - getting their signature is another.

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1 minute ago, Kemp said:

I get your point, but the Alloa, Celtic and Hibs games all count too. It's been clear since August this was going to be a massively important window for us!

I think and hope that we are in good enough shape for the Alloa game!

Still got 18 - 22nd before the Tic game; though anything other than a drubbing is a bonus there and especially at this point after all the squad cuts.

The Hibs game though, we do need more strength and depth before than one for sure. (It is only a few days before the window shuts anyway)    :2cool

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21 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Whilst we are short of players still, it's worth reminding ourselves about how Dundee and Hamilton are getting with their signings.

I think we should trust Gus and Oran. This is their necks on the line if they f**k it up.

It’s not just blind trust. You have to look at past experience. 

Oran has signed 3 class players in the time he has been here ( hamell, anton and Jackson) 

Gus signed Dorman, Higdon , Haining and mark howerd in the past.

so they can both see the quality of player that’s needed. It’s been 2 weeks and we have 4 in, another 4 in over the next 2 weeks will be fine. 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Kemp said:

We are going in to the Alloa, Celtic and Hibs games with holes still all over the squad.

Pretty poor from the club in my opinion to again be underprepared for crucial games. Gus is supposed to working full time on ensuring this type of situation doesn't happen!

Not unexpected surely? 

We are just over half way through the month. 

Most (?) Top 6 Scottish Clubs have been abroad. 

Expect more to happen in the second half of January. 

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36 minutes ago, Kemp said:

I'm happy to see Dundee making an arse of it, but the expectation at St Mirren (based on the noises coming out the club) was that business was in place and would be done early. On four signings it has, but none of them in the key positions we need filled!

I'm sure it is a complex situation, we are surely keeping some budget aside for Lewis Morgan for example but haven't yet convinced him or his club we are the best option. I understand the point in waiting there. For the other positions though it doesn't look like we have much in the pipeline. I remain hopeful Kearney will make the right decisions around players coming in, but my expectations were for more based on what I had seen Gordon Scott and Gus MacPherson quoted as having said.

Did you open the Christmas present in July :P

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