Speculation Thread

[lenziebud 861]

15 hours ago, W6Saint said:

Wrong time to get rid of StePHen.

Struggles with fitness a lot these days but when fit is a good player.

Squad is dropping like flies as it is, 2 midfielders playing in defence today. 
Not many of our players have played top end English Championship football and really get the club like him.

Good guy to have in the dressing room. Goodwin clearly acknowledges his influence as when on the bench he stays in for half time team talk then goes out to warm up.

Correct time to move him on. We need the wage freed up to improve the quality of the squad.

Great servant and model professional but we need more than half time team talks.

[MenstrieSaint 1,057]

20 minutes ago, lenziebud said:

Correct time to move him on. We need the wage freed up to improve the quality of the squad.

Great servant and model professional but we need more than half time team talks.

Totally agree , also gives Stephen a chance to find the right club . Would also try and put four or five players out on loan . With a view to getting three or four in.

[thomsons dropped it 2,197]

1 hour ago, FTOF said:

According to a St.J fan on P&B, we've informed them that we'll be speaking to Matty Kennedy about a contract for next season.

However, Aberdeen are interested, which means he'll sign for them.

Twitter version...Saints fans think it's the Agent touting him to get a better deal but still staying at the Fakes. Stevie May's agent did much the same hawking him last summer.

Thank f**k we never signed him, he's been pure mince.

Edited December 30, 2019 by thomsons dropped it
No idea....

[djchapsticks 8,797]

16 minutes ago, thomsons dropped it said:

Twitter version...Saints fans think it's the Agent touting him to get a better deal but still staying at the Fakes. Stevie May's agent did much the same hawking him last summer.

Thank f**k we never signed him, he's been pure mince.

Kennedy on the other hand, is a good player, even if he's a bit 'fally doony'.

[thomsons dropped it 2,197]

5 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Kennedy on the other hand, is a good player, even if he's a bit 'fally doony'.

I would agree with that description.....

[W6Saint 1,016]

1 hour ago, lenziebud said:

Correct time to move him on. We need the wage freed up to improve the quality of the squad.

Great servant and model professional but we need more than half time team talks.

Repectfully Disagree, we're in a 4 (5?) way dogfight. Need all the experience we can get over the next 6 months. Beyond that fair enough if we're looking to progress.

If he moved on I have a feeling Jim would look to bring in an experienced midfielder to replace him anyway. 

ETA - you don't have a clue whether we need the wage or not. Not another club accountant 

Edited December 30, 2019 by W6Saint

[turrabuddie 1,465]

On 12/26/2019 at 9:08 PM, munoz said:

Sad to say, but fully agree.  You never like to see a great servant coming to their end at our club,  but unfortunately it looks like his time is almost up. The freeing up of wages is something that will be needed this window,  and SMcG must be on a decent wedge St Mirren wise. 

I think we need 4 or 5 in this window depending on what happens to the loanees,  so there has to be a certain amount of players leaving. 

Contrast this with the last couple of years when we were looking at around a dozen in and out. By no means perfect, but the squad is in much better shape this year.

[lenziebud 861]

12 minutes ago, W6Saint said:

Repectfully Disagree, we're in a 4 (5?) way dogfight. Need all the experience we can get over the next 6 months. Beyond that fair enough if we're looking to progress.

If he moved on I have a feeling Jim would look to bring in an experienced midfielder to replace him anyway. 

ETA - you don't have a clue whether we need the wage or not. Not another club accountant 

You don't need to have a clue to know that

[djchapsticks 8,797]

1 hour ago, W6Saint said:

Repectfully Disagree, we're in a 4 (5?) way dogfight. Need all the experience we can get over the next 6 months. Beyond that fair enough if we're looking to progress.

If he moved on I have a feeling Jim would look to bring in an experienced midfielder to replace him anyway. 

ETA - you don't have a clue whether we need the wage or not. Not another club accountant 

It was quite commonly known that in order to get Broadfoot in, Jack Baird's wage had to be freed up, hence him moving on loan to Morton.

Given no-one has since moved in either direction, either GLS is going to increase the budget for another couple of players (which is feasible) or if not, folk will have to go out to come in.

[kevo_smfc 1,798]

Tony said in the club yesterday what positions we need and the number rounded off to 5 players in, not including a goalie which makes me think the club will resist any offers for Hladky.

The most obvious positions of the 5 are two centre halfs and a left back. We have been threadbare incentral defence and there are no guarantees that McLoughlins deal will be granted an extension by Hull

[djchapsticks 8,797]

1 minute ago, kevo_smfc said:

Tony said in the club yesterday what positions we need and the number rounded off to 5 players in, not including a goalie which makes me think the club will resist any offers for Hladky.

The most obvious positions of the 5 are two centre halfs and a left back. We have been threadbare incentral defence and there are no guarantees that McLoughlins deal will be granted an extension by Hull

Amazingly, if you'd said to most supporters 6 weeks ago that 3 bodies would have to come in, most would have said a striker (possibly two) and a creative midfielder.

Now it's all change and reinforcements in the defence are needed desperately.

I'd also happily keep Ryan Flynn as first choice right back for now. He's performed really well there in his stint and probably fits in better than he would in the midfield at present.

[Tommy 3,323]

2 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

Amazingly, if you'd said to most supporters 6 weeks ago that 3 bodies would have to come in, most would have said a striker (possibly two) and a creative midfielder.

Now it's all change and reinforcements in the defence are needed desperately.

I'd also happily keep Ryan Flynn as first choice right back for now. He's performed really well there in his stint and probably fits in better than he would in the midfield at present.

Flynn has certainly got better in every game he had played in that position. 

[kevo_smfc 1,798]

1 hour ago, Tommy said:

Flynn has certainly got better in every game he had played in that position. 

I'd say hands down that of players still here from last season, he has been the most consistent top performer in last 12 months. Fantastic player with bags of energy and determination.

[Russian Saint 1,128]

Totally agree , also gives Stephen a chance to find the right club . Would also try and put four or five players out on loan . With a view to getting three or four in.

If I’m not mistaken. Goodwin stated in his interview that unless players come chapping his door no one will be leaving as the squad is a bit thin on the ground (or words to that affect)
From that I assume S McGinn will be going nowhere.

[Hendo 2,751]

12 hours ago, cockles1987 said:

With Steve Bruce being at the game I wonder if he was seeing if any Newcastle players would benefit coming to the the buds.

 

PS, I hope the incoming rumour of a Clyde centre forward isn't going to happen.

There is no chance of the centre forward to whom you are referring coming here. The closest he'll get to our ground is when he works a backshift at the B & Q on Renfrew Road.

[djchapsticks 8,797]

Osman Sow and Simeon Jackson both released by Killie today. 

Hard pass on both. Sow is f**king mince and Jackson, whilst he did us a turn, isn't as good as what we currently have. 

[paul torfason 446]

1 hour ago, Hendo said:

There is no chance of the centre forward to whom you are referring coming here. The closest he'll get to our ground is when he works a backshift at the B & Q on Renfrew Road.

Steve Bruce son plays centre half for killie

[faraway saint 28,620]

15 minutes ago, paul torfason said:

Steve Bruce son plays centre half for killie

Cheers for that. 

14 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

Probably just watching his boy play for killie. 

 

[Hendo 2,751]

38 minutes ago, paul torfason said:

Steve Bruce son plays centre half for killie

That really wasn't who I was talking about. Perhaps if you talk to your therapist he might give you a clue?

[W6Saint 1,016]

13 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

It was quite commonly known that in order to get Broadfoot in, Jack Baird's wage had to be freed up, hence him moving on loan to Morton.

Given no-one has since moved in either direction, either GLS is going to increase the budget for another couple of players (which is feasible) or if not, folk will have to go out to come in.

It's not common knowledge at all - my point was the poster is making assumptions about the club's wage bill which he knows nothing of.

By the way, Baird signed for Morton for 6 months. Broadfoot signed for 2 years. McLoughlin was on a 6 month loan and we're trying to keep him...

Are you saying we're about to be over budget?

There will be money in the pot for Goodwin - or we wouldn't be talking to rival players about PCA's for next year or declaring we're about to bring in 5 players.

 

Edited December 31, 2019 by W6Saint

[djchapsticks 8,797]

5 hours ago, W6Saint said:

It's not common knowledge at all - my point was the poster is making assumptions about the club's wage bill which he knows nothing of.

By the way, Baird signed for Morton for 6 months. Broadfoot signed for 2 years. McLoughlin was on a 6 month loan and we're trying to keep him...

Are you saying we're about to be over budget?

There will be money in the pot for Goodwin - or we wouldn't be talking to rival players about PCA's for next year or declaring we're about to bring in 5 players.

 

We might not be. Budgets being adjusted in the winter is certainly nothing new but we were having to free at least some money up in summer for Kirk to come in, which was why Baird was shifted really out of the blue. Again, I'm not disagreeing that there is money in the budget to bring players in just now (by way of an increase), just that there was no more budget room for additional faces in the summer. 

A PCA doesn't necessarily mean that there is budget just now either. It just means that wages freed up by guys who we already know definitely won't be here next season like Hladky are being prepped to be spent elsewhere. 

Also, where are we declaring 5 players are arriving? Goodwin has mentioned he wants a couple of strong improvements coming in. Presumably that two he's looking for will now be three if Mcloughlin is really done with us. 

[Ayrshire Saints 4,375]

15 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

Osman Sow and Simeon Jackson both released by Killie today. 

Hard pass on both. Sow is f**king mince and Jackson, whilst he did us a turn, isn't as good as what we currently have. 

Sow is still a Utd player I think. Hopefully no attempt to make a deal involving S McGinn !!!

[djchapsticks 8,797]

16 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

Sow is still a Utd player I think. Hopefully no attempt to make a deal involving S McGinn !!!

If Goodwin watched him for 75 mins on Sunday and thought he could bring anything to our squad, he'd need his head looking at. Don't think there's any danger of this.

[kevo_smfc 1,798]

6 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

We might not be. Budgets being adjusted in the winter is certainly nothing new but we were having to free at least some money up in summer for Kirk to come in, which was why Baird was shifted really out of the blue. Again, I'm not disagreeing that there is money in the budget to bring players in just now (by way of an increase), just that there was no more budget room for additional faces in the summer. 

A PCA doesn't necessarily mean that there is budget just now either. It just means that wages freed up by guys who we already know definitely won't be here next season like Hladky are being prepped to be spent elsewhere. 

Also, where are we declaring 5 players are arriving? Goodwin has mentioned he wants a couple of strong improvements coming in. Presumably that two he's looking for will now be three if Mcloughlin is really done with us. 

In fairness Tony Fitz mentioned 5 positions we are looking to aff. I think one of the centre half positions is possibly with view of McLoughlin moving on as there was never any guarantee Hull would allow us to extend his stay. Whether the other centre half position is to replace Baird or to add to our options I have no idea, though with GMack being forever injury prone, this is most likely going to be his last season and a long term replacement with similar attributes will be the target of being sourced I'd think.

[djchapsticks 8,797]

2 minutes ago, kevo_smfc said:

In fairness Tony Fitz mentioned 5 positions we are looking to aff. I think one of the centre half positions is possibly with view of McLoughlin moving on as there was never any guarantee Hull would allow us to extend his stay. Whether the other centre half position is to replace Baird or to add to our options I have no idea, though with GMack being forever injury prone, this is most likely going to be his last season and a long term replacement with similar attributes will be the target of being sourced I'd think.

Also in fairness, Fitzy said last January in the 1877 club that we were on verge of signing 4 players by the next game and we got one in by the next match.

I love the guy but I'm very much in the 'believe it when I see it' category when it comes to what he tells supporters pre and post match in the bar.