exiledfan Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: Because the agreement Hibs made with us is that we get a 30% sell on of any transfer fee Hibs get for McGinn. It turns out Hibs negotiated in turn a 15% sell on for any profit made on McGinn which means they are obliged to give us almost a third of their 15% sell on. Hibs chairman confirmed as much at their AGM 2 seasons ago. In addition to this, there is 5% set aside in every transfer in world football for a solidarity fee to be paid to clubs that train a player up and the cut increases as the player develops. In our case, we trained John from 13 (when the fees start to kick in) until 20 and are due 3.5% of any future transfer fee involving him. Hibs trained him from 21-23 and so are due 1.5%. So for example, based on say, a £30m transfer, the money would be broken down as follows: £30m transfer less £3m Villa paid = £27m profit. Hibs take a 15% cut of that £27m = £4.05m Hibs pass 30% of that to SMFC = £1.21m 5% of the 30m transfer is also set aside = £1.5m Hibs get 1.5% of that 5% = £450k We get 3.5% of the 5% = £1.05m Hibs make £3.3m in sell on and developmental fee St. Mirren make £2.25m in sell on and developmental fee Thanks for the explanation that's not too shabby! If he moves I hope we use the money on wisely to ride out this recession and not have any ticket price increases next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Finishing 8th in the league and a hand out fron UEFA for rankgers doing well in Europe should be a tidy wee lift for the coming season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 13 hours ago, exiledfan said: He's also at an age where clubs will want him on a 4 year contract and at 27 is heading into his peak years . How do we get money though if he went to his first. I think now is the right time for Villa to sell McGinn before he hits the final year of his contract and is tempted to play it out . He looked jaded towards the end of last season , but he did play loads of games , these guys didn't get much rest pre season last year with the Euros do I think clubs will take that into consideration. He will get a decent rest during the World Cup . So will be a very good signing for a club aspiring to be top six next season . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 I thought McGinn signed a new 5 year deal with villa only about a year or so ago?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledfan Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 21 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I thought McGinn signed a new 5 year deal with villa only about a year or so ago?? Hence why they can push for big bucks now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 JG buying a fullback! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cglr1zgm10ko THERE’S a surprise! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Jamie McGrath to Dundee United? https://punditarena.com/football/andrew-dempsey/jamie-mcgrath-linked-with-dundee-united/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Saint Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, Rascal said: Jamie McGrath to Dundee United? https://punditarena.com/football/andrew-dempsey/jamie-mcgrath-linked-with-dundee-united/ Naw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, Warrior Saint said: Naw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 8 hours ago, exiledfan said: Hence why they can push for big bucks now. Yes I’m well up on that. I was responding to the post above mine that suggested he was close to going into the last year of his contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledfan Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 5 hours ago, Rascal said: Jamie McGrath to Dundee United? https://punditarena.com/football/andrew-dempsey/jamie-mcgrath-linked-with-dundee-united/ Now here's where I would gamble on the income from McGinn and difference in top 6 income. Get him back to Paisley on a long term deal knowing grass isn't greener else where. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Now here's where I would gamble on the income from McGinn and difference in top 6 income. Get him back to Paisley on a long term deal knowing grass isn't greener else where. Interesting. I don't know how I would feel about that as last season before he left he seemed disinterested or maybe it was just when Jim tried to play the weird formation where he tried Kiltie and McGrath next to eachother. If it was a toss up with having the money I would go Ronan over McGrath any day of the week. Ronan could play anywhere in the middle. He was great box to box. Jim said he saw McGrath as a box to box in an interview at one point, bit never really saw him do anything of note in our own half. Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Ronan won't be coming back to us and I doubt he'll be coming back to Scotland either. Outwith the Old Scum the only clubs who have paid in excess of a £500k fee in recent years have been Aberdeen and Hibs. Both can currently afford that but I doubt he will agree to go. He'll want to prove himself at a higher level and, much as we don't like to admit it, playing in the English Championship would be a step up, not to mention a 5 figure/week wage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 18 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said: Ronan won't be coming back to us and I doubt he'll be coming back to Scotland either. Outwith the Old Scum the only clubs who have paid in excess of a £500k fee in recent years have been Aberdeen and Hibs. Both can currently afford that but I doubt he will agree to go. He'll want to prove himself at a higher level and, much as we don't like to admit it, playing in the English Championship would be a step up, not to mention a 5 figure/week wage. I know that he enjoyed his time in Scotland. His dad sat next to one of my sons at a Motherwell v St Mirren game had told him that Ronan was delighted to be playing every week. Maybe that will influence his decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Ronan won't be coming back to us and I doubt he'll be coming back to Scotland either. Outwith the Old Scum the only clubs who have paid in excess of a £500k fee in recent years have been Aberdeen and Hibs. Both can currently afford that but I doubt he will agree to go. He'll want to prove himself at a higher level and, much as we don't like to admit it, playing in the English Championship would be a step up, not to mention a 5 figure/week wage.I know he won't be back. As McGrath won't be back. I was just commenting that Ronan would be better, but neither would be back. Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledfan Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 20 minutes ago, Mainstand Sweary Mob said: I know he won't be back. As McGrath won't be back. I was just commenting that Ronan would be better, but neither would be back. Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk That's all very true we need to look forward to welcoming the next star next season who can use us to develop. it's a win win for both parties at the end of the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 Paul McGinn to Motherwell. https://www.footballinsider247.com/medical-underway-motherwell-agree-deal-for-hibs-star-paul-mcginn-sources/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 36 minutes ago, Rascal said: Paul McGinn to Motherwell. https://www.footballinsider247.com/medical-underway-motherwell-agree-deal-for-hibs-star-paul-mcginn-sources/ Would have taken him back 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmullo Bud Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 Solid signing for Motherwell. Good experience and a very consistent player. Think he’ll do a job there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 Why post a, (non St. Mirren), fact in a speculation thread? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 27 minutes ago, stlucifer said: Why post a, (non St. Mirren), fact in a speculation thread? There had been speculation that he might return to St Mirren 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Rascal said: There had been speculation that he might return to St Mirren No. There wasn't. Someone merely asked if we'd take him back. He was Never linked with us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 30 minutes ago, stlucifer said: No. There wasn't. Someone merely asked if we'd take him back. He was Never linked with us. Lol. Ok Lucy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 23 minutes ago, Rascal said: Lol. Ok Lucy No problem Pricky. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 7 minutes ago, stlucifer said: No problem Pricky. Good to know Lucy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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