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St Mirren give Barnsley permission to speak to JR

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4 minutes ago, Magic said:

We’ve not sacked a head coach since 12/02/2015 that’s three years since we last sacked one, some going that in this day and age. 

Aye but JR will have us in Europe in the next 12months. Fitzy said so it must be true. When was the last time you were in Europe?

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1 minute ago, Yflab said:

Aye but JR will have us in Europe in the next 12months. Fitzy said so it must be true. When was the last time you were in Europe?

I was in Europe last week. (Well, nearly. Fuerteventura). 

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If JR goes do we think any of our players are good enough to play for Barnsley.  Would the likes of Harry Davis survive down there.  Could Reilly or Eckersly make the step up. Would Cammy Smith fancy his chances. Losing a manager is one thing but if he takes half the team with him that would be a blow. Jr brought in a few Alloa players he thought would make the grade and DL signed half of Cowdenbeath.  Bairdy for Barnsley.  We'll probably get to keep Stellios though.

 

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pissed off at Barnsley

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3 minutes ago, East Lothian Saint said:

If JR goes do we think any of our players are good enough to play for Barnsley.  Would the likes of Harry Davis survive down there.  Could Reilly or Eckersly make the step up. Would Cammy Smith fancy his chances. Losing a manager is one thing but if he takes half the team with him that would be a blow. Jr brought in a few Alloa players he thought would make the grade and DL signed half of Cowdenbeath.  Bairdy for Barnsley.  We'll probably get to keep Stellios though.

 

Transfer windows shut tight so no chance. That's the very thing that might convince Jack to stay put.

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6 minutes ago, East Lothian Saint said:

If JR goes do we think any of our players are good enough to play for Barnsley.  Would the likes of Harry Davis survive down there.  Could Reilly or Eckersly make the step up. Would Cammy Smith fancy his chances. Losing a manager is one thing but if he takes half the team with him that would be a blow. Jr brought in a few Alloa players he thought would make the grade and DL signed half of Cowdenbeath.  Bairdy for Barnsley.  We'll probably get to keep Stellios though.

 

Only player I would take to Championship from current St Mirren team is Kyle Magennis. Morgan too if he wasn't away to Celtic. 

Magennis based on potential with a huge amount to work on

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9 minutes ago, nedflanders123 said:

Still struggle to understand why, at such a crucial stage of the season, we have given Barnsley permission?  This uncertainty must cause some disquiet amongst the players.  We fobbed off Dimdee so is this current decision perhaps through a clause contained in his contract?

Why bother struggling, when nobody on here has any idea what the situation is regarding the details of JR's contract in relation to an approach for his services? 

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25 minutes ago, lenziebud said:

Only player I would take to Championship from current St Mirren team is Kyle Magennis. Morgan too if he wasn't away to Celtic. 

Magennis based on potential with a huge amount to work on

Your absolutely right but I fully expect Kyle to move on anyway irrespective of whether JR is in post or not. He is potentially our best prospect. No argument. I'm just wondering if any of our players who we think are good enough for the SPL may be targeted by Jack in the close season.  Winning the league will be one thing but staying up without the backbone of this seasons team would be a real challenge but then again it's all speculation.

30 minutes ago, Yflab said:

Fitzy is in negotiations with Hollywood right now. 

JR cleared out the last lot. Maybe our new manager will do the same.

Fitzy just said we'd win the premier league next season but he didn't specify JR would lead us there.

Could it be JR was not the messiah.  Behold the second coming is about to come.  Pass the crack cocaine Fitzy. I'm seeing your vision.

(This post is not intended to promote the use of recreational drug use or cause offence to any of the Abrahamic religions.  it's just a dig at Tony.  (I'm a believer like the Fitz- Fortuneteller and I'm hoping Jack will stay)

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Fulfilling the prophecy

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Our recruitment team have been working wonders recently, we’ve had some really really good players at the club in the last couple of years, most of whom have moved on to bigger budget clubs, on bigger wages, our last two head coaches also moved to bigger budget clubs on bigger wages. Our club is proven to be a stepping stone to bigger and better things for most of the people who pass through it, this’ll have massive appeal to any prospective head coach. 
The Totally Football League show was very complimentary towards Barnsley, with ex Buddie Sam Parkin offering some knowledge about Ross from his PFA days up here.

From what seems to be reported Barnsley and Beane aren't willing to shed their youth development policy, you just have to look at the centre backs alone that have come through.

It's the next stepping stone up if Ross does have real ambition in the game, staying for a Scottish Championship trophy wouldn't add that much to his CV, and these offers will be few and fair between.

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5 minutes ago, FTOF said:

Why bother struggling, when nobody on here has any idea what the situation is regarding the details of JR's contract in relation to an approach for his services? 

I am just curious as to why our board would allow possible disruption to our promotion drive by allowing our manager to talk to another club while under contract.

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2 minutes ago, nedflanders123 said:

I am just curious as to why our board would allow possible disruption to our promotion drive by allowing our manager to talk to another club while under contract.

I think someone suggested there is a clause in his contact which prevents the board from stopping him.

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6 minutes ago, gc_SMFC said:

The Totally Football League show was very complimentary towards Barnsley, with ex Buddie Sam Parkin offering some knowledge about Ross from his PFA days up here.

From what seems to be reported Barnsley and Beane aren't willing to shed their youth development policy, you just have to look at the centre backs alone that have come through.

It's the next stepping stone up if Ross does have real ambition in the game, staying for a Scottish Championship trophy wouldn't add that much to his CV, and these offers will be few and fair between.

Your last paragraph does reflect that Jack is ambitious although winning a championship trophy is better than his current position where he hasn't won anything other than rightful praise for turning the fortunes of the club around.  Potential and winning things are not mutually exclusive or guaranteed.

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Just now, East Lothian Saint said:

I think someone suggested there is a clause in his contact which prevents the board from stopping him.

Noone other than Jack and the club know if this is the case or not. It appears likely otherwise I think the club would not have entertained any approach.

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6 minutes ago, billyg said:

 


Robbie Neilson ? Gets us up and he's back managing a top league club ?

 

Afraid not, he's another Pressley. Overrated and failed totally on his own in England, no excuses. Derek Adams is an example of a manager with talent, done brilliant job at Plymouth, not that he'd come to us !.

Maybe we'd get McIntyre and Dodds :P

 

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Your last paragraph does reflect that Jack is ambitious although winning a championship trophy is better than his current position where he hasn't won anything other than rightful praise for turning the fortunes of the club around.  Potential and winning things are not mutually exclusive or guaranteed.
Unfortunately for us moving to Barnsley, no matter what happens, is much better for his CV than staying here to get us over the winning line. If he moves he'll get credit for the work he's put in the if he doesn't then who knows if he'll be wanted by that level again. These sort of opportunities are limited especially in the footballing world.

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