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St Mirren give Barnsley permission to speak to JR

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1 hour ago, Magic said:

Our recruitment team have been working wonders recently, we’ve had some really really good players at the club in the last couple of years, most of whom have moved on to bigger budget clubs, on bigger wages, our last two head coaches also moved to bigger budget clubs on bigger wages. Our club is proven to be a stepping stone to bigger and better things for most of the people who pass through it, this’ll have massive appeal to any prospective head coach. 

I would disagree that Barnsley is "proven to be a stepping stone to bigger and better things for most of the people who pass through it". Quite the opposite in fact, most players head down the way apart from a few folk like Mawson, Stones and Steele. Best of luck to you guys though :-)

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7 minutes ago, nedflanders123 said:

Your last paragraph does reflect that Jack is ambitious although winning a championship trophy is better than his current position where he hasn't won anything other than rightful praise for turning the fortunes of the club around.  Potential and winning things are not mutually guaranteed.

You talk about ambition and having a championship trophy. Let’s be honest, in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t matter a great deal. 

Plenty of managers have had great careers at a high level without winning a single trophy as a manager. 

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Let's face it if Barnsley offer Jack way more money he will be off. Would anyone on here realistically turn down big money just for loyalty. There is no such thing as loyalty money talks just look at Mo Johnston for example.  When Ross signed his new deal you can bet there was a clause allowing him to chat to a bigger club. He has history of jumping when doing well at a club look at how we got him from Alloa. It would-be great if he stays but we need to prepare if he leaves. A bad choice could derail our season. 

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2 hours ago, davidg said:

If I was JR I’d take the Barnsley job if offered. 

I know there’s unfinished business here and some think he could get a bigger job but when you look at previous managers of ours who have achieved good things in recent years they have ended up at Queens Park and Clyde. 

A championship offer may never come around again. 

 

From out our point of view it’s the only downside of having a good young manager who’s getting some success on the park. We’re still strong enough to get promoted without JR as he’ll be leaving is in a solid position. 

Financially we’ll be compensated and we won’t be short of decent candidates now people see what sort of club we are these days. We have a togetherness from the fans to players and the board. We’re heading back to the top flight and in a sound financial state. We will have plenty of decent applications for the job. 

I hope JR stays but I wouldn’t grudge him the move and I think he would be crazy to decline the offer. 

Excellent post.

Only wish to add that the Board have done the right thing in letting him speak with Barnsley. 

They have also treated players in a similar way and not stood in the way of them improving their incomes. This attitude helped Lewis Morgan e.g. in his remaining with us till the end of the season.

I echo the sentiment that if Jack stays he will have a chance to add to his CV by taking the Championship trophy. If he goes however, he will go with my best wishes amongst many others.

This is a profession. Managers are not fans in most cases of the teams they manage nor players the team they play for. Careers are short and uncertain. 

 

Edited by St.Ricky

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16 minutes ago, ScotstounSaint said:

I would disagree that Barnsley is "proven to be a stepping stone to bigger and better things for most of the people who pass through it". Quite the opposite in fact, most players head down the way apart from a few folk like Mawson, Stones and Steele. Best of luck to you guys though :-)

In the last three transfer windows, Alfie Mawson, James Bree, Marc Roberts, Angus MacDonald, Josh Scowen, Connor Hourihane, Marley Watkins, and Sam Winnall have all moved on to clubs with bigger budgets and got bigger wage packets to boot, add to that Paul Heckingbottom, and about 7 or 8 loan players who have gone on to secure jobs at bigger budget clubs, due to us helping develop them and giving them a stage to showcase their talents, I’d say we’re well and truly a stepping stone to better things for a lot of players. 

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36 minutes ago, lenziebud said:

Afraid not, he's another Pressley. Overrated and failed totally on his own in England, no excuses. Derek Adams is an example of a manager with talent, done brilliant job at Plymouth, not that he'd come to us !.

Maybe we'd get McIntyre and Dodds :P

 

Adams got the bullet from Ross County and Robbie Neilson's Hearts  outfit strolled to the championship title. One bad experience with a struggling English club doesn't render Neilson a failure.

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9 minutes ago, Magic said:

In the last three transfer windows, Alfie Mawson, James Bree, Marc Roberts, Angus MacDonald, Josh Scowen, Connor Hourihane, Marley Watkins, and Sam Winnall have all moved on to clubs with bigger budgets and got bigger wage packets to boot, add to that Paul Heckingbottom, and about 7 or 8 loan players who have gone on to secure jobs at bigger budget clubs, due to us helping develop them and giving them a stage to showcase their talents, I’d say we’re well and truly a stepping stone to better things for a lot of players. 

Come on, those are all made up names aren’t they?

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Ok folks. Does anyone who has been posting on this topic ACTUALLY know that Jack has been down to Barnsley and if so HOW do you know. It seems like there’s 19 pages worth of hysteria on here and a previous poster was right - if Fitzy has lied what does that say about him in his position at the Club. Can’t think why Jack won’t finish what he started when we are so close. 

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3 minutes ago, renfrew bud said:

Ok folks. Does anyone who has been posting on this topic ACTUALLY know that Jack has been down to Barnsley and if so HOW do you know. It seems like there’s 19 pages worth of hysteria on here and a previous poster was right - if Fitzy has lied what does that say about him in his position at the Club. Can’t think why Jack won’t finish what he started when we are so close. 

He Finished his interview round about 7pm tonight Chic Young was on the phone about it while he was on sports sound tonight 

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1 hour ago, renfrew said:

Div should do us all a favour and shut this site down for 24hrs for maintenance to avoid possible mass suicide in paisley tomorrow  :rolleyes:

Div , on twitter , seems quite confident of good news tomorrow . Hopefully he knows what's going on. Here's hoping !

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2 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

I wonder if we have a short list drawn up so we can cut to the chase?

If we do hopefully it won’t include Steven ‘15 goals in 22 games’ Aitken.  Plenty of other better candidates than him out there.

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30 minutes ago, elvis said:

He Finished his interview round about 7pm tonight Chic Young was on the phone about it while he was on sports sound tonight 

That’s not what I asked. Are you insinuating Chic was on the phone to Jack ? Question again is does ANYONE ACTUALLY KNOW this is the truth. Think I’ll wait til it’s official. 

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37 minutes ago, renfrew bud said:

That’s not what I asked. Are you insinuating Chic was on the phone to Jack ? Question again is does ANYONE ACTUALLY KNOW this is the truth. Think I’ll wait til it’s official. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43052626 perhaps GLS gave permission to Barnsley to talk to Jack Ross and didn't mention it to Tony? It's not that long since Tony was quoted as saying St Mirren could become the first professional club in Scotland to hire a female manager.

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