FTOF Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 According to individuals on The fakes thread on P & B, their collective opinion is that Cammy McPherson is absolutely rotten. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 hours ago, FTOF said: According to individuals on The fakes thread on P & B, their collective opinion is that Cammy McPherson is absolutely rotten. We can take their opinions with a pinch of salt , they think Shaun Rooney is a superstar ! ☺️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, billyg said: We can take their opinions with a pinch of salt , they think Shaun Rooney is a superstar ! ☺️ i would hope we bring him back but he could do a job for st j in the championship next season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truesaint Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Cammy has been recalled back from St Johnstone. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60097941 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, truesaint said: Cammy has been recalled back from St Johnstone. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60097941 Bizarre move, he’s been absolutely dreadful according to st Johnstone fans and has been as good as a man down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, JJ McG said: Bizarre move, he’s been absolutely dreadful according to st Johnstone fans and has been as good as a man down. Signed a pre contract with them. Seems we are looking for some cash. All a bit odd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 22 minutes ago, magnus said: Signed a pre contract with them. Seems we are looking for some cash. All a bit odd. JG has just confirmed he's signed a PCA with the Fakes , and we've recalled him , crazy situation ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Take it we lose out on any development money for not offering a new contract? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Take it we lose out on any development money for not offering a new contract?Didn't we? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 16 minutes ago, Slarti said: 28 minutes ago, linwood buddie said: Take it we lose out on any development money for not offering a new contract? Didn't we? Don’t know . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, billyg said: JG has just confirmed he's signed a PCA with the Fakes , and we've recalled him , crazy situation ! Not really. As JG says, why help them out in their time of strife without any financial outlay? Jim Goodwin sets out St Mirren stance on Cammy MacPherson as he tells St Johnstone to cough up if they want midfielder back - Daily Record I'm not sure whether the "buying" club or the player have to inform us that MacPherson has signed a PCA or not. If it's the latter, then the fakes have fucked it up big time. They're always going on about how loaded they are. I'd say £100K will be enough to secure one of our prize assets. Edited January 22 by FTOF 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Don’t know .Me neither. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 44 minutes ago, FTOF said: Not really. As JG says, why help them out in their time of strife without any financial outlay? Jim Goodwin sets out St Mirren stance on Cammy MacPherson as he tells St Johnstone to cough up if they want midfielder back - Daily Record I'm not sure whether the "buying" club or the player have to inform us that MacPherson has signed a PCA or not. If it's the latter, then the fakes have fucked it up big time. They're always going on about how loaded they are. I'd say £100K will be enough to secure one of our prize assets. When I said crazy , I meant very unusual , I can't remember another example where this happened ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, billyg said: When I said crazy , I meant very unusual , I can't remember another example where this happened ? I see what you mean. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbriansaint72 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 I can see JG's point really. Mc Pherson doesn't feature in his plans, he's out on loan and signed a PCA with club. He has been recalled but will be so far down pecking order he won't play unless the fakes want him now then they need to pay a bit otherwise they will get a non match fit player. Good move by JG imo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumboBud Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 The danger is that we now have an unhappy player in the camp that won’t be there next season. Unless this is resolved in the few days I can’t see it being a good thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 42 minutes ago, DumboBud said: The danger is that we now have an unhappy player in the camp that won’t be there next season. Unless this is resolved in the few days I can’t see it being a good thing. He can train with youth players then and be nowhere near the seniors players 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, DumboBud said: The danger is that we now have an unhappy player in the camp that won’t be there next season. Unless this is resolved in the few days I can’t see it being a good thing. If he has signed a PCA and we offer him a contract , will it be the case that a fee could be set by a tribunal , so that would mean it makes sense both clubs agree a fee this window . Clever I think . Would still prefer Cammy stays with us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, DumboBud said: Unless this is resolved in the few days I can’t see it being a good thing. It will be, if it weakens more an already weak St.Johnstone side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maboza Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 All very confusing. Surely Saintees were going to be paying his wages for the remainder of the season. By calling him back we risk being lumbered with that outlay unless they think it’s worth the cash to spring him early. Would we be due a development fee from the PCA? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 All very confusing. Surely Saintees were going to be paying his wages for the remainder of the season. By calling him back we risk being lumbered with that outlay unless they think it’s worth the cash to spring him early. Would we be due a development fee from the PCA? Were they paying all his wages?It all depends on what he was earning and what he will be earning. If they are willing to pay more than he was currently on, then we only need to offer what he was currently on to receive a fee if he has already signed a PCA. I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Smart move. I imagine Cammy isn't one of our bigger earners so bringing him back for the rest of the season forces St. Johnstone's hand one way or the other and does so at relatively little cost to ourselves. Like it or not they are rivals in terms of where 5hey are in the league in comparison to us so if they want to strengthen with one of our assets, then they should be paying the premium to do so. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Also worth noting that we'll more than likely offer Cammy a new deal on the wages he's currently on, so even if we can't draw a fee for him now, St. Johnstone will still need to pay a development fee for him as he was still under 23 at the start of this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 21 hours ago, FTOF said: Not really. As JG says, why help them out in their time of strife without any financial outlay? Jim Goodwin sets out St Mirren stance on Cammy MacPherson as he tells St Johnstone to cough up if they want midfielder back - Daily Record I'm not sure whether the "buying" club or the player have to inform us that MacPherson has signed a PCA or not. If it's the latter, then the fakes have fucked it up big time. They're always going on about how loaded they are. I'd say £100K will be enough to secure one of our prize assets. Makes sense 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 On 1/22/2022 at 5:24 PM, JJ McG said: Bizarre move, he’s been absolutely dreadful according to st Johnstone fans and has been as good as a man down. Their whole team has been garbage for weeks now, months even. He could be pish and still be their best player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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