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Regarding Paul McGinn - Keep in mind we need to bring in 2 or 3 full backs - he's a safe bet. Younger than Eck who I imagine/hope will stay. Smith goes back to Hearts. Irvine will be punted. Questions over Stelios. FB is an area we need to strengthen in and if McGinn signed it doesn't mean we won't sign another FB, and it doesn't mean we won't sign a better one either.

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2 hours ago, RossCSmfc said:

What chance does he have when you’re comparing him with a left back and his goal scoring record as a defender?

I like Paul as a player and think he’d be a worthwhile signing.

Bottom line is he is coming from the premiership has experience of that league the other good thing is at 27 he is at his peak. 

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1 hour ago, Drew said:

We've been through this McGinn nonsense, and I evidenced that you were talking utter pish.

 

Presumably you were content with Hutton, Quinn & Carswell in midfield! :lol:

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Paul was a first choice pick for Dundee for 2 seasons in the Premiership then he signed a 2 year deal for Chesterfield playing half their games in League One. He wanted back to Scotland so terminated his contract and came back to sign for PT where he did not start too often. But there is a decent player in there and I am sure Jack will bring it out in him.

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1 hour ago, zico said:

Presumably you were content with Hutton, Quinn & Carswell in midfield! :lol:

At least I take an interest in the midfield. You'd be happy to see them bypassed by big punts up the park at every opportunity.

Withered scrotum that you are:booty

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40 minutes ago, Drew said:

At least I take an interest in the midfield. You'd be happy to see them bypassed by big punts up the park at every opportunity.

Withered scrotum that you are:booty

On the contrary, I want to see our midfielders in the attacking half of the pitch facing the opposition goal, pressing the opposition and creating goalscoring opportunities!

You'd rather see them loitering near our defence, facing their own goal and under pressure!

 

:double

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I have it on very very good authorities that we will be signing at least 8 players from the following list

 

UEFA
European
CONMEBOL
South American
CONCACAF
North American
CAF
African
AFC
Asian
OFC
Oceanian

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On ‎19‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 3:06 PM, northstbuddie said:

What plonker threw this together?

My gran could do better and she died in 1973?

Do we have a scouting system in Bulgaria and Sweden?

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On 19/04/2018 at 3:06 PM, northstbuddie said:

This is like the sort of squad you end up with after entering your 5th season on Football Manager.

In a bizarre coincidence I signed Massimo Donati on FM09 in my third season :lol:

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4 hours ago, RossCSmfc said:

What chance does he have when you’re comparing him with a left back and his goal scoring record as a defender?

I like Paul as a player and think he’d be a worthwhile signing.

First comparing a left back to a right back is hardly inappropriate - it is the same role on the other side of the pitch. 

Second, I pointed out his scoring record to say that he is not going to contribute much there - which is not necessarily terrible - but there are full backs who can contribute to the goals tally as well and surely that is an asset? (Smith got 2 from RB this season, I think Eckers scored 2 as well, even Stelios got 1 or 2 with a lot fewer games - whereas Paul got 2 in 5 seasons).

IT looks like he is surplus to requirements at Thistle, and is not currently in the 1st 11 there;  and with us having only 1 full back signed for next season, he could take up a 3rd or 4th choice position in my opinion. BUT surely we want guys who are even better than Eckers and Paul or at least with sufficient potential that after Eckers is 34 our new guy gets in the 1st team? Signing Paul leaves 2 more spaces at FB. Not signing Paul is no big deal as far as I am concerned- there are really good FB's out there within our Budget..

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2 hours ago, David Mc said:

Looks to have a been a regular at Thistle until mid-Feb.  Not sure if he got injured? 

Aside from that 6 foot tall so meets the not a shortarse criterion :D

He was deputising for the injured Christy Elliot apparently. Elliot is now fit and McGinn hasn't had a look in.

Think McGinn had a hamstring injury at Chesterfield, which kept him out for a large part of a season.

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3 hours ago, Sweeper07 said:

First comparing a left back to a right back is hardly inappropriate - it is the same role on the other side of the pitch. 

Second, I pointed out his scoring record to say that he is not going to contribute much there - which is not necessarily terrible - but there are full backs who can contribute to the goals tally as well and surely that is an asset? (Smith got 2 from RB this season, I think Eckers scored 2 as well, even Stelios got 1 or 2 with a lot fewer games - whereas Paul got 2 in 5 seasons).

IT looks like he is surplus to requirements at Thistle, and is not currently in the 1st 11 there;  and with us having only 1 full back signed for next season, he could take up a 3rd or 4th choice position in my opinion. BUT surely we want guys who are even better than Eckers and Paul or at least with sufficient potential that after Eckers is 34 our new guy gets in the 1st team? Signing Paul leaves 2 more spaces at FB. Not signing Paul is no big deal as far as I am concerned- there are really good FB's out there within our Budget..

Has Paul played at a higher level than Eckersley  ? = Yes   Have you watched Paul week in week out ? = No . Do you trust Jack to sign players needed ? = I don't know that answer from you , my answer would be yes especially since Jack coached Paul at Dumbarton who's supporters rave about Paul being brilliant.  Do we have the budget to go well above your expectations? = probably yes. For me Jack built a team to stop us being relegated agree? The Jack built a team to win the championship agreed ? Why not trust Jack who has worked with said player. Remember we are St Mirren not Hearts , Hibs, Aberdeen we will be one of the premiership small clubs who have yet to earn a premiership budget after all we will receive less than half what the bottom premiership clubs earn so let's learn to crawl before we can walk. Put trust in your management team who have worked wonders.  

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10 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Has Paul played at a higher level than Eckersley  ? = Yes   Have you watched Paul week in week out ? = No . Do you trust Jack to sign players needed ? = I don't know that answer from you , my answer would be yes especially since Jack coached Paul at Dumbarton who's supporters rave about Paul being brilliant.  Do we have the budget to go well above your expectations? = probably yes. For me Jack built a team to stop us being relegated agree? The Jack built a team to win the championship agreed ? Why not trust Jack who has worked with said player. Remember we are St Mirren not Hearts , Hibs, Aberdeen we will be one of the premiership small clubs who have yet to earn a premiership budget after all we will receive less than half what the bottom premiership clubs earn so let's learn to crawl before we can walk. Put trust in your management team who have worked wonders.  

Has he ?   Eckersley has played English Championship level. Dont think Paul has .

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46 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

Has he ?   Eckersley has played English Championship level. Dont think Paul has .

I'm not trying to say Paul is a better player than Eckersley only trying to point out Paul has played in the Premiership got a move down South due to his performances with Dundee that would suggest there is a good player in there add Jack knows his qualities its a no brainer. Some players perform better with some coaches than others. Jack is not brining in someone he does not know. That mate is the bottom line for me. Let's not get carried away we can't sign up to 9 players of superstar quality. We average 4, 000 home fans and work within that budget. Yes cup games and wining the championship brings along extra fans unfortunately they are not there week in week out. As we now know we get under £500,000 for wining the championship compare that to third bottom of the premiership. Who do you think has a head start ? 

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8 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

I'm not trying to say Paul is a better player than Eckersley only trying to point out Paul has played in the Premiership got a move down South due to his performances with Dundee that would suggest there is a good player in there add Jack knows his qualities its a no brainer. Some players perform better with some coaches than others. Jack is not brining in someone he does not know. That mate is the bottom line for me. Let's not get carried away we can't sign up to 9 players of superstar quality. We average 4, 000 home fans and work within that budget. Yes cup games and wining the championship brings along extra fans unfortunately they are not there week in week out. As we now know we get under £500,000 for wining the championship compare that to third bottom of the premiership. Who do you think has a head start ? 

Im  pointing out that what you stated was simply NOT TRUE.   You stated that Paul had played at a higher level.... he hasnt.  I am making no comment on which is better .

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7 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

Im  pointing out that what you stated was simply NOT TRUE.   You stated that Paul had played at a higher level.... he hasnt.  I am making no comment on which is better .

Fair enough you are right on that. Too many are knocking a player not many of us know to well only going on Patrick Thistle fans view a team not exactly beaming in confidence  more what we were like in the old SPL. I'm ready to give Paul time if he signs. 

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